<p>I understand that not everybody does, but it seems like it sometimes.</p>
<p>If you are applying there, I am curious to know what drew you to the ivies other than the "ivy-league" tag.</p>
<p>If I could get in I'd rather go to Brown or Columbia :-P</p>
<p>When I say HYP I'm referring to all of the ivies. Sorry for the miscommunication. My question is "what is it about the ivies that people love so much besides the name?"</p>
<p>I'd love to go to brown or dart but I won't get in so not applying. The "tag" never drew me to them, if anything it's why I can't stand HYPS especially. What drew me to brown and dartmouth was a lot of different things, but mostly how they seemed to really love their school and it didn't just seem to carry the prestige of HYP</p>
<p>I'll admit it the first thing about Brown that attracted me to it was their no core requirement, but then I did some reasearch on the school itself and I found myself liking it regardless of their lack of a core requirement. That is the only ive league school that I'm applying to, I used to be obsessed with the prestige(rankings) of colleges when I was little. I was raised from the age of five to believe that HYPS and "public ivys" were the only schools that could guarantee(sp?) you success in life. But, soon I did research on all of the schools, and I realized that it would clash with my personality and that I would not be happy at the college, no matter how prestigious it is. I resolved to find schools that could fit me, and yes the schools on my list just happen to be in the top fifty (i think..i'm not sure..didn't check the rankings last year), but I'm truly happy with my selection. Now, all I have to do is get the scores and apply, and hopefully I will get into atleast two schools on my list.</p>
<p>it is HYPP now.</p>
<p>its not just the ivies, but all top schools that people want to go to</p>
<p>and thats exactly why: the schools are academically better, and they want to challenge themselves</p>
<p>after all, the reputations of top schools is atleast based on fact to a degree. For example, even though Brown and Columbia are opposites, I was still deciding between both because they are both Ivy Leagues and highly ranked. If any other schools become good, they also gain the "tag" of a prestigious school, and more people like it. Its not as if the rankings and prestige of schools are static.</p>
<p>Browns no core requirement is sweet, but if you are an engineer at Brown and an engineer at another school you won't see much difference because of all the reqs and prereqs ha...but its really cool for political science and economics.</p>
<p>^I'm also considering both Brown and Columbia. Brown for its PLME program, and Columbia because it offers smaller classes while still having a huge range of areas. I've also heard that Columbia's pre-med advising is very good. Also, the fact that Columbia is in New York City is a plus (more opportunities for volunteer, internships, etc. in lots of different areas) </p>
<p>I thought Columbia had a "design your own major" program, but I have a feeling I got it confused with another university because I can't find any information on it...(if anyone can point me in the right direction, please let me know)</p>
<p>megodspeaking, please, get a life. i think its sad that everyone is so obsessed with abbreviations and that stuff.</p>
<p>thethoughtprocess, at brown, engineers get to pick one course each semester. doesn't sound like a lot to ME, but to engineers at other schools I think it is a big difference.</p>
<p>yeah, they mentioned that you can pick two courses a year depending on your engineering field, except your first semester for some reason.</p>
<p>i'm not sure about that though</p>
<p>HYPP? What's the second P? Harvard, Yale, Princeton...Poughkeepsie? Public Ivies? Plymouth, Palomar, Pamona, Pretty dancing Ponies....</p>
<p>Yes, anyway, for the Ivies. I was attracted to them because they have tremendous resources at their fingertips. They have the $$$, you know, so they have the science facilities, the libraries, they can pay the top profs (although from what I've heard, half are insane and the other half is cranky), lovely dorm rooms, good food, etc. And they're beautiful campuses. Other colleges have equally good people, maybe better teachers, the same basic information, but the dough enhances it. Hard, but true.</p>
<p>BTW, I'm only applying to Yale, the others on my list are Vassar, IUB, Duke, Rice, UCSD...so you see I'm not a full-blown blue-blood.</p>
<p>i dont get it. actually, i visited/ toured harvard and could NOT stand it. i'd say HYP is a whole lotta HYPE.</p>
<p>The thing that attracted me to them is - the professors are often the top people in their respective fields. The absolute experts, the ones doing the cutting-edge research, getting interviewed for prime time news stations, publishing bestsellers even though they're nonfiction.</p>
<p>That said, it didn't counteract the quality of teaching (read: expertness in a subject does not necessarily correlate to teaching it well) and atmosphere I found at other schools, like LACs. Applied ED to Wesleyan U.</p>
<p>HYPE=Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Evergreen State :p</p>
<p>What ever floats your boat, I guess. An university that is absolutely perfect for one person, might not fit another person at all. While the Ivies can offer a lot, there are many other universities that will also provide an excellent education; it's all a matter of which one will suit your own personal needs. While I agree that people shouldn't be applying to the Ivies solely for the prestige factor, there's nothing wrong with applying if you feel that it will fit your needs.</p>
<p>How are Columbia and Brown opposites? Just in the fact that Brown has no core and Columbia's core is famous?</p>
<p>I really want to know what that 2nd p is darn it :confused:</p>
<p>The core vs. no core curriculum is the manifestation of the school's philosophy, I believe. As I understood it from the information sessions, Columbia's view is that one cannot be considered "educated" without knowing the literary classics, ancient philosphers, music, art history, etc. So all students must take those "core" classes. (The exception is for engineering students who take 1/2 of the core.) Brown admissions people explained at their session that the only students they want sitting in their classes are those who want to learn the subject. They don't believe in dictating a set of courses that every student must take. They offer a pass/fail grading system so that kids can take classes of interest to them without worrying about their gpa.</p>
<p>Columbia and Brown were opposites for a bunch of reasons. Columbia has a very prescriptive core curriculum, Brown has no requirements at all. Columbia in the middle of the biggest city in the country, while Brown is on a hill. Columbia students seem more work/goal oriented while Brown kids are more laid back (subjective but what I thought when I visited them). So on and such.</p>
<p>Both are awesome schools though, so I guess thats what links them together.</p>
<p>Hypp Penn St Pton</p>