<p>I say if you want the money and stability so badly just get a major in something computer related that’ll give you a great starting salary. The college itself makes little difference actually. The top 3 salary earning schools aren’t Harvard, Yale, Princeton but rather 3 state schools (according to Forbes, couldn’t get the site, just google it). It’s just about major, internships, and the actual job. Nearly all schools offer internship and some kind of job fair for the students.</p>
<p>You have to issues with the logic here. 1) Money leading to happiness. Which is thought of as relative or needed for the basic needs. Completely ignoring how you can get basic needs without college at all in many cases. “Normal”? Well, my parents never finished high school yet I have a roof and can smell the food cooking and can laugh at South Park. I don’t think college even raises the overall chances of being fiscally “normal” in the overall world sense or in that case the majority of the would is insane.
2) Going to a top university leads to more money. Which is no way proved at all unless you redefine “top university” to “the universities with the most high paying majors”. Harvard is not the highest paid university, I don’t think it’s even #5. College rankings mean nothing in actual physical salaries, it’s almost entirely bases on prestige, tradition, and…I have no clue what else really…BS? They say education but honestly books are free and education for a job really comes from experience and the application of knowledge rather than what a professor told you when you were barely paying attention.</p>
<p>Since you wrote that post I have to assume that you are literate and since you are in engineering I have to assume that you have some logical capabilities. So are you being intentionally dense, or what?</p>
<p>You give data which is completely irrelevant to what I was saying. </p>
<p>ALL ELSE HELD EQUAL, ANY INDIVIDUAL IS HAPPIER WITH MORE MONEY THAN LESS.</p>
<p>Don’t bother trying to find an experiment or study which refutes me. No such study can exist, since it’s impossible for all else to be held equal. This is something that you know, whether you want to claim that or not. You do actually know this is true.</p>
<p>LOL, the reason Nigerians are happy with what they have, is that they don’t know or haven’t seen what it’s like to have a lot more than that. Money is worth a lot less in countries like Nigeria, that is why they’re happy and satisfied.</p>
<p>I agree with the sentiment that major correlates more to money than the actual college. My friend’s older cousin who wanted to be a doctor ever since she was little, and after getting into Harvard she just couldn’t keep with the classes since it was soooo competitive, she ended up switching into some humanities major like polysci or literature. Now all she has is the bragging rights of going to Harvard but she can’t even find a job. Unlike the UCSD graduate who went to medical school and is now a filthy rich doctor.</p>
<p>QwetyKey. I understand your point, but for me I think there is a point where making to much money is a bad thing. In my eyes money is the root of all greed and evil, and more importantly it changes who you are. I dont really feel like explaining more of my view point now because i just had this conversation with my english teacher.</p>
<p>Hah, I totally wanted to pull out the study of the man who won the lottery and he was terribly unhappy with it all, felt stressed, and his brother hired a hitman on him.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don’t think you want the link now. Still, I don’t believe what you say in bold, don’t know it, and I’m not intentionally dense. There is no evidence at all of happiness increasing when you give someone money, no long term happiness, though a homeless person will smile when you give him $20. You just made it impossible to hold everything equal so no one can prove you wrong, I’ll say “HEY! Einstien thought your mom was a hooch!” and it’s impossible to bring Einstien back and ask him his opinion on ones’ mom so it must be true if you can’t prove it wrong.</p>
<p>So you know what? do some study, give me some physical data on this and I’ll seriously consider it. Till then I’m going along with terrible country songs that say “I have all the money in the world…but no love!” and the guy sounds seriously sad about that. He can buy tons of prostitutes but no happiness, go figure.</p>
<p>No study can exist showing it’s true for the same reason no study can exist showing that it’s false. Again, this is something that you knew already, and only suggested it because you wanted to be intentionally dense. And again, in your last anecdote, that guy wouldn’t have been happier poor if his life was otherwise exactly the same, again, you’re being intentionally dense.</p>
<p>“LOL, the reason Nigerians are happy with what they have, is that they don’t know or haven’t seen what it’s like to have a lot more than that. Money is worth a lot less in countries like Nigeria, that is why they’re happy and satisfied”</p>
<p>That’s kind of an ahole american thinking. “OH those poor savages! They don’t know what they’re missing out on when I **** away $50 on toilet water bills weekly! Now give me more anti-depressants…” but it’s done with some haughty accent and a monocle and an igloo of cocaine nearby. They have television, people visiting the country telling them how awesome disneyworld is, motorbikes with 3 people on 'em (<a href=“http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/happy/threebike.jpg[/url]”>http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/happy/threebike.jpg</a>) which kinda beats our lame 2 people per bike deal and is probably why they’re so happy. Really, I think it has to do with being more lay backed and the sun. The sun is really well related to the amount of happiness due to serotonin levels, I think it has to do with why Seattle (with its cloudy skys) has high suicide rates and why emo kids are so pale. There’s of course a study…but ya’ll don’t want it.</p>
<p>Though I’m actually okay with the pursuit of money, I think it leads to progress and such. I mean, Bill Gates would have just laid around his pool all day diving into piles of gold playpen balls if the money gave him happiness. Alas, he has a need to be greater, make more for his company or people or whatever reasons and it leads to Widows 7. But money doesn’t lead to happiness. The pursuit keeps some people going though when they otherwise would have just been bums on the couch.</p>
<p>um…btw, I’m not saying being poor makes you happy either</p>
<p>happiness isn’t that simple of “this makes happy, that makes happy”. It’s somewhat more on your outlook on life and the people around you and many other things. But if you figure money will make you happy then you’ll be forever disappointed with life. </p>
<p>And Qwerty? Kay, the first thing with bringing up the “find your own study”. Yeah, that was me being “intentionally dense”. But you said the same impossible task in all seriousness, but it’s only dense when I say it I guess.</p>
<p>I think it’s the possibility that drives us, not the guarantee. I mean, don’t you want to be the best you can be? And after all, this is a capitalistic society.</p>
<p>The whole more money = more happiness thing is totally true. If you had the exact same circumstance (aka same girlfriend, same relationships), but made $20k more per year, the person making $20k more would be happier.</p>
<p>Qwertykey, your reasoning is just pure conjecture. My dad left a job where he was making 350k a year to start his own business where he will be making 80-130k annually. He is much, much happier. He can walk to work every day and he can be home at 4:00 whereas he used to have a 1 hour commute to and from and worked 9-10 hours a day. My dad also used to have to travel to Wisconsin for a week every month and hated it, now he doesn’t have to travel at all. He also used to have a moronic, despotic boss. Now he is is own boss. Now we are upper middle class but my dad is so much happier because all of the stress and pain that was associated with making lots of money is now gone.</p>
<p>Your reasoning makes sense only if it works like this:
I work as a mechanical engineer and I can pick to earn either 80k or 200k working the EXACT same job, which do I pick?
Because earning large amounts of money has strings attached to it, for example, working insanely hard at a high pressure school where there is little down time, then working in a high pressure job where you again have little down time.</p>
<p>Anyway, I want to go where I’d be happiest, which will be a good school but with better parties/athletics (VTECH, Penn State, etc.)</p>
<p>Anways, my sister is jobless after graduating from UNC (so she enrolled in grad school after a 1/2 year of working at a bagel shop) and my brother makes over 100k after two years and he graduated from a state school.</p>
<p>^Good for your dad. Hope everything goes well. </p>
<p>For this whole entire money = happiness can we conclude that is a person is mainly focused on materialistic goods it is true, otherwise it is most likely not.</p>
<p>^Yes I would agree with that. I was just suprised QwertyKey was making a generalization for all people. His/her reasoning makes sense of course for a materialistic person but certainly not for all people.</p>
<p>"Your reasoning makes sense only if it works like this:
I work as a mechanical engineer and I can pick to earn either 80k or 200k working the EXACT same job, which do I pick?
Because earning large amounts of money has strings attached to it, for example, working insanely hard at a high pressure school where there is little down time, then working in a high pressure job where you again have little down time."</p>
<p>This is exactly the type situation I was talking about. You just agreed with me. I have absolutely no idea how you could have possibly interpreted it as the first way. Show me where I wasn’t clear.</p>
<p>And Lucky, I told you that there was no point trying to find a study, since one couldn’t exist. I don’t see how you could have interpreted that as me telling you to go find a study. But then again, you were probably just being intentionally dense.</p>
<p>What if one does not want to go into a computer related field? You’re contradicting your next statement.</p>
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<p>Firstly, I never said that money necessarily leads to happiness. Secondly, I never denied that one can obtain basic needs without postsecondary education. Nowadays, however, it is much more difficult to do so than in the past.</p>
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<p>We’re in 2010, not 1950.</p>
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<p>The definition of financial stability varies with several factors: location, food and housing costs, among other things. In the U.S., it certainly helps to get a postsecondary degree.</p>
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<p>The starting statement of that segment does not reflect what I said in my last post. There is never a guarantee of employment for anyone. Acquiring a job is largely based on chance, which is increased by a number of factors–one of which is a university and another of which is the major.</p>
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<p>That first statement is true, but a university’s name can certainly help in even being hired onto a salaried job. Also, in college, most real students aren’t being spoon-fed what they hope to learn. A real student will actually go and pursue the acquisition of knowledge by reading a book, or engaging in some other enlightening activity. The role of the professor is to assist a true learner in obtaining knowledge. Quite simply, I would hope most folks desiring to obtain an education aren’t merely feeding off of their instructors (like many a high school student would); and finally, learning, not preparation for some job, should be a student’s major goal in attending school. There are and have been enough ignorant workers in the world; and it’s best that their numbers are limited.</p>
<p>Money isn’t everything you guys. People still hate their lives because they may be making money from doing a boring, repetitive job? If you hate your life for some reason, it’s not always going to be because of lack of money. It’s because you’re not happy doing what you’re doing at that present time. Now, this can be easily changed, but people don’t seem to realize that there are so many opportunities out there, so they just give up.</p>
<p>^Not many people major in something they aren’t passionate about, and if they are stupid enough to do such a thing, they usually get their butt kicked and swap majors fast.</p>
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