<p>like every person wants to do Bio/Pre-Med when Engineering is more stable and has a decent pay?</p>
<p>^ Hasn’t this come up a million times already? I think its interesting that it mostly emerges in the engineering forum (engineering no doubt attracts some with a passion for engineering but also attracts a whole lot that really are looking at the pragmatics and/or their parents are, especially if they are from most of the developing world countries where engineering is viewed as the only ticket in town). </p>
<p>Only some college students are interested in pursuing a particular degree because of job prospects/money. Many others pursue a major because of their heart felt interest, their particular strengths, the type of career path they think will fulfill them the most. And fortunately we still have an economy that lets people do this and be successful.</p>
<p>Since when is engineering more stable and higher paying than medicine?</p>
<p>Yes, really. Citation needed.</p>
<p>For a while now. Will get worse after reform goes through.</p>
<p>You have no idea what your talking about AJW1992D.</p>
<p>Why do you say that? There are a ton of doctors who are leaving medicine/ closing their practice because of the reimbursements. They have so many constraints with medicare and insurance reimbursements that are only going to get worse.</p>
<p>Somehow I doubt there is going to be a mass exodus of doctors from the health care profession. Reality and right wing scare tactics do not always meet eye to eye.</p>
<p>Not a right winger, far from it. Doctors do not get the support, monetary compensation that they should. Noble profession, but the time and money put in to get the degree does not equal earnings. If it is a passion, go for it. If you want to be rich, forget it.</p>
<p>“Noble profession, but the time and money put in to get the degree does not equal earnings.”</p>
<p>Really? A surgeon can easily make $400,000. I haver 2 surgeons in my family who are married to each other and combined they make about $900k. Yes, $900k, not $90k.</p>
<p>One of the reasons why medicine is far more lucrative than engineering is that the AMA closely regulates the number of med schoosl graduates to ensure that there is never an abundance of doctors. And unlike engineering, there is no outsourcing, and it is virtually impossible for a foreign educated doctor to move to the US and take the jobs of US doctors.</p>
<p>Good for them.</p>
<p>One of the reasons why medicine is far more lucrative than engineering is that the AMA closely regulates the number of med schoosl graduates to ensure that there is never an abundance of doctors. And unlike engineering, there is no outsourcing, and it is virtually impossible for a foreign educated doctor to move to the US and take the jobs of US doctors. </p>
<p>Who are you kidding???</p>
<p>yeah their is ton of foreign educated doctors from Lebanon, Israel, etc. that are practicing medicine here LOL…</p>
<p>and don’t BS me and tell me all these kids have passion for being a “doctor”. They know doctors make six figures and thats the reason why they are doing it…</p>
<p>@ iambored10
Well, there are certainly a numbers of kids are devoted to medical care, i.e. my sister, my grandmother, and my great-grandmother. The latter two don’t make good money in China. My sister has always been interested in becoming a MD since 5 years old.</p>
<p>But certainly true quite a bit number of people pursue medicine because they want to make big bucks.
But note those usually are not hospital surgeon, or the top MD at hospital. Those “kids” are usually dentists, plastic surgeons, family MD, etc. </p>
<p>But if you ever want to become a surgeon you absolutely need that “passion” - I don’t know how one can survive in medical school for 10 years without that passion.</p>
<p>I can tell you why my son is going biomedical engineering / possibly pre-med. He has always LOVED biology, but he also enjoys math and physics. So he decided to start out in BME, and then he can decide which profession he wants to pursue. If he likes the engineering design or research aspects a lot, he’ll probably go to grad school in engineering. Otherwise, he’ll go to med school. He wants to do something he likes - he’s not thinking “big bucks,” one way or the other. Hard as that might be to believe, lol!</p>
<p>I get what your saying jwxie but don’t people understand the cost of being a doctor (stress, loans, liability, etc.) outweigh the benefits (money… passion…etc.)?</p>
<p>Here in NYC most of the doctors are foreign born.</p>
<p>@ iambored10
Yeah. It’s true. But you will be working in a hospital while in medical school - so the cost is reduced a bit.
You can split it up into private doctor, or hospital doctors.</p>
<p>The one that works only in hospital don’t get a lot of benefits - consider how many hospitals are closing down each year - and thus the ratio of patients per doctor is incredibly high. </p>
<p>The one that works only in its own clinics are pretty relaxing, because they have a regular schedule.</p>
<p>Very often clinics doctors, epseically the famous one are also contracted with the hospital. Meaning that they have to be in the hospital at a certain time, and they must be in the hospital whenever a request is called, i.e. emergency. </p>
<p>For example, my dad’s eye surgeon has its own clinics in Long Island, but he also works with the NY Presbyterian Hospital. My dad was sent to an emergency room a few years ago at night. He developed cornea disease - he was about to losing his eyesights. There was no eye surgeon in the hospital at that time. So the surgeon was called an hour later. He then performed a surgery on my dad. Afterward he went back to his home.</p>
<p>The next morning he came back to check my dad’s eyes. Before my dad leaves the hospital, we consulted with him. On an ordinary day my dad was seen by an eye doctor instead.</p>
<p>I have a few members that makes a lot of money being a family physician, and one a surgeon. Either way their salary are very decent. But if you happen to work for the hospital, the amount of stress is beyond words. These days they claim we are still lacking doctors - I don’t understand. So many hospital are closing down already. Maybe in the mid-west, I don’t know.</p>
<p>"yeah their is ton of foreign educated doctors from Lebanon, Israel, etc. that are practicing medicine here LOL… "</p>
<p>You truly have no clue what you are talking about. I have met several forejgn educated doctors and most of them are working as medical assistants because they can’t take the boards here. In fact, one of my uncle’s med assistants is a South American doctor and his degree is not recognized in the US.</p>
<p>“Here in NYC most of the doctors are foreign born.”</p>
<p>I’m not talking about foreign born doctors. I’m talking foreign EDUCATED. Big difference.</p>