<p>I wouldn't say Brown's grad school is great either...Princeton has a great grad school</p>
<p>Anyways,why would anyone want to major in English...to waste $120k?
JKJKJK.</p>
<p>Providence sucks because their is nothing to do. You cant even go to Wal-Mart or Best Buy without leaving the city.</p>
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One of MIT's pitfalls is that it's so focused on math/science/engineering that any other department, like English literature (I'm not even sure if they have this or not) would be left in the dust.
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<p>Not true. They have among the very best economics, linguistics, architecture, philosophy, political science and business departments in the country. Hardly limited to math & science.</p>
<p>You cant even go to Wal-Mart or Best Buy without leaving the city.</p>
<p>Because on a Friday night I just love to hop on down to Wal-mart and get myself some quality deals (sarcasm).</p>
<p>I didn't even know there was a Wal-Mart and Best Buy anywhere near! Even better! Sorry, Providence is a fun city. An hour to Boston, less to Newport. Great college town atmosphere near RISD-Brown. Weird historic buildings, great places to go biking and running. And a zoo! And the cost of living is much less than in Boston; there are a lot of apartments within student affordability. The neighborhood where Brown is is lovely, but really close to downtown Providence which offers opportunities for internships in various companies or volunteering in inner-city schools. I guess it could grow on you if you've lived there all your life, but so could anywhere else?</p>
<p>I agree cellardweller, It think they meant Cal-Tech. Where your only History Class is History of Science and your only English Class is How to Analyze a Textbook.</p>
<p>That right muffy for business in Providence there is......Hasbro?
However Newport is nice and charmy in some place, I will give you that.</p>
<p>Re post #5, I think that William and Mary doesn't get recommended very much because it isn't very realistic for OOS students, especially as regards FA. I see the rest recommended all the time.</p>
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Neither does Princeton. In fact, Princeton doesn't have a medical school either, while Brown does have one. So I guess Princeton is a pretty trashy place, huh?
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<p>You forgot the fact that Brown medical school is mediocre at best, Its not even ranked among the top 30 research medical schools.</p>
<p>You also forgot that to compare a lack of med, biz, law schools with Princeton is probably the illogical things you can do. Did you forgot that Princeton is in a whole another league of its own with its endowment 5 times great than Brown's endowment? $15 billion dollars. To answer your question, no Princeton is not a total bag of garbage. ::roll eyes::</p>
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<p>This is a complete false assumption. Wrong in every way. As cellardweller was saying, MIT's strength is very strong across the spectrum. Limitation as a tech or math or science school, those are probably MIT's most well known strengths, but they are hardly what MIT is only good at.</p>
<p>Brown, its not know for much, its programs atleast are not at strong as MIT's nor is well known as MITs. Thats a fact.</p>
<p>Like most people said it takes a special person to enjoy brown..i would never consider going there..i don't like the location, i not hoppie, it doens't have any major i'm interested in...
Don't get me wrong it is a very good school but it is very peculiar...</p>
<p>^ Actually, MIT is NOT known for English Lit. It is strong in some humanities and social sciences (mainly the latter). It does have the major, but people don't go to MIT specifically for English.</p>
<p>Also, I doubt anyone was claiming that Princeton is "a total bag of garbage." But comparing universities based on med/law/business schools is rather irrelevant, especially for undergrad (vast majority of CC).</p>
<p>Brown is known for the humanities, and for its open curriculum. I don't see how that allows you to declare unilaterally that "its programs...are not as strong as MIT's nor as well known" [grammar corrected]. This may be true for some areas, but not across the board.</p>
<p>^ I don't think Brown is peculiar at all. It's like a large LAC. It's got some great strengths in the humanities (classics, philosophy, English, comp lit) and a strong undergraduate focus, but a little more breadth and depth in its curriculum than smaller LACs. Nothing wrong with that. I think it would be a fine place to get a well-rounded liberal arts education. Brown grads go off to great success in leading medical ,law, business, and graduate schools. I'm very pleased my D has it quite high on her wish list along with some leading LACs. In fact, it's probably the only Ivy she'll apply to.</p>
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One of MIT's pitfalls is that it's so focused on math/science/engineering that any other department, like English literature (I'm not even sure if they have this or not) would be left in the dust. That's not good, now is it?
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<p>While I agree that MIT's focus is one of its problems (IMO, tech schools shouldn't be ranked with broad-reaching universities), and obviously MIT is branching out, it does however manage to sweep most disciplines: biological sciences, engineering, physical sciences, math, and quite a few social sciences (econ, poli sci, psychology, linguistics). Its business school is top-notch. It's weak in arts and humanities, though.</p>
<p>So even though MIT is focused on the sciences, it does manage to offer many top programs--there's a reason it's typically considered #4 in grad school excellence, behind only Stanford, Berkeley, and Harvard.</p>
<p>So even though MIT is focused on the sciences, it does manage to offer many top programs--there's a reason it's typically considered #4 in grad school excellence, behind only Stanford, Berkeley, and Harvard.</p>
<p>All very true. But then again, grad school excellence doesn't necessarily translate into undergrad excellence.</p>
<p>IMO, tech schools shouldn't be ranked with broad-reaching universities</p>
<p>I completely, whole-heartedly agree.</p>
<p>I don't think that's really fair to MIT and Caltech to say they shouldn't be ranked with "broad-reaching" universities, MIT especially. All MIT is missing is the humanities and the arts while quite a few other "top 10 schools" offerings in engineering are quite sparse. However the other top 10 schools, MIT, and Caltech all share one thing in common: they're national research universities.</p>
<p>"I agree cellardweller, It think they meant Cal-Tech. Where your only History Class is History of Science and your only English Class is How to Analyze a Textbook."</p>
<p>I'm tired of these misconceptions floating around. Caltech does offer normal humanities classes - there just aren't that many, because there are 900 undergrads. 12 of these classes are required of us, which isn't exactly a small number.</p>
<p>Caltech</a> Division of the Humanities and Social Sciences</p>
<p>Brown is an awesome school. Open curriculum. Can take exchange classes at RISD. Meets 100% of FA and income guidelines for need to be met with grants not loans. Personal attention to students, a lot of great traditions. President has acnowleged that the school was built on the slave trade, so they are doing initiatives and programs as a sort of retribution. Involved in the city of Providence educational system. They have a lot on the ball.</p>
<p>Brown was MUCH more obscure before the open curriculum made it a very popular destination for people who didn't want to learn. I mean, like, who would want to take a course about something he didn't already know? God forbid that you be pushed into a philosophy or math or economics class that you didn't want to take...that would be so Fascist.</p>
<p>It was my understanding that your advisors really pushed you to take courses outside your comfort zone and things that you really didn't know about.</p>
<p>Yeah, and their political science professors represent the entire spectrum of political thought, too.</p>
<p>Because having an open curriculum obviously means that it's an inferior school filled with slackers. So I'm assuming you hold similar views of Amherst (which currently ranks #1), Vassar and all the other schools out there that share this same philosophy of learning.
Hey, why not have all schools try to emulate Columbia and U of Chicago, you know, where they're so fascist that the mere thought of letting a student pick any of their classes is a crime against humanity.
I mean, it's absurd to think that college students that had the grades, test scores, ecs and personal qualities to get into an ivy in the first place would be mature enought to handle designing their own education. Amirite?</p>
<p>Yeah, and their political science professors represent the entire spectrum of political thought, too.</p>
<p>Save that comment for Berkeley.</p>