Why is Berkeley all asian?

<p>i don't think the uncomfortable-ness has to do with ethnicity. like...ok ya there's a difference between white americans and dutch people raised in the netherlands, or french, or italians. but the fundamental difference is between western and eastern cultures</p>

<p>there's a HUGE difference there. western culture is socratic, based on the classic greek and roman world, and judeochristian worlds as well, were as in the orient, it's a completely different culture (no matter what ethnicity, it's separate from the west, there's no doubting this). That's where the tension comes in. Even in class, asians (fob's and people who's families are recent arriivals), especially in humanities/social sciences get a bad rep because the style of teaching/learning in the west is much different than that of the orient. So for example, in the west, the professor/teacher is a mutual worker in the education of the mind, one questions, challenges and receives a response, but in the orient, the teacher is an authority, you sit, shut up, and listen. doesn't mean there's not thinking going on, it's just not socratic.</p>

<p>this is one example, but one that highlights why a lot of westernized peoples (hispanics, whites, african americans, europeans, euroamericans) don't really click with asian brothers and sisters. It's different, and doesn't realy mesh with western educational tradition so it's weird for us non-asians to be exposed to it. that's where the uncomfortable-ness comes from.</p>

<p>but asians who are more westernized, or act so, are accepted and hang out with more non-asians than their oriental counterparts. same goes for white doods who like asian **** (anime and all that jazz), they're quite alienated from other westerners, but have tons of asian friends.</p>

<p>I really think it's less racial, and more a cultural line.</p>

<p>there's a cool NYT article on this.</p>

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So for example, in the west, the professor/teacher is a mutual worker in the education of the mind, one questions, challenges and receives a response, but in the orient, the teacher is an authority, you sit, shut up, and listen. doesn't mean there's not thinking going on, it's just not socratic.

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<p>You nailed it, Punkdudeus. You completely and utterly nailed it. When I lived in Asia and taught at a university there, it worked much better when I finally gave up trying to be a guide on more or less a level of being co-equal and just became a benign dictator...</p>

<p>This is all cultural.</p>

<p>Diversity is about culture, not skin color. In that respect, Berkeley's as diverse, if not more so, as schools like Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc.</p>

<p>Asian = cheap
Berkeley = cheapest ivy league like school.</p>

<p>Many asian kids get into Princeton, Stanford etc, but they are too cheap to pay for it.</p>

<p><--- I am asian btw.</p>

<p>I just met with this group last night. Yes - I signed on the dotted line because we need HELP! I did wake up in a cold sweat when I realized I had not requested a Prospectus on the organization. Came to this website to determine if I had been SCAMMEd and it was comforting to see that it is a solid company. I must find out how they got our name...</p>

<p>ahahaha :) last post.</p>

<p>huh?.......</p>

<p>doryx's post...but yeah the one right before mine is strange
punkdudeus, i have a question since you go to berkeley...to get to le conte, do you suggest i get off at telegraph (i'm taking bart), then walk there. how far is it by foot?</p>

<p>thanks :)</p>

<p>^ Le Conte is in the center of campus next to the Campanilie.</p>

<p>You can walk straight up campus from the Bart station...It's a pretty good trek.</p>

<p>ya don't get off @ ashby, get off in downtown berkeley, and just go towards the campanile. once you get there, leconte is the building directly east of the courtyard in front of the campinile</p>

<p>wow, it was such a long walk. i wish i looked at this thread right before i left...NO ONE knew where "le conte" was. i ended up in le conte avenue, but managed to get to le conte HALL in time :) thanks.</p>

<p>^ Haha...did you get off the BART at the downtown Berkeley station?</p>

<p>yeah i did.... :) then someone gave me a ride to le conte avenue which was far-ish. then i had to walk down to the right place by myself.</p>

<p>r u sure you got off @ the downtown berkeley station? because it's not THAT far, i mean, it's far, but like...you don't really need a ride there.</p>

<p>i got a ride to le conte AVENUE which is different, they told me, from le conte hall or something, i mean the clock tower was way on the other side of the avenue.</p>

<p>and yeah i always get off at downtown berkeley :)</p>