<p>I've looked at the statistics for business/economics at both CAL and UCLA and they seem "extremely competative". I always thought UCLA and CAL where know for their science/math programs such as bio and engineering. Seeing the average UCLA accepts people for biz-econ is 3.94 GPA. When I seen that I was like forget it, but then agian are those number really true? if so the pressure is extremely high because it means I can only get 1 B and I already did my fall semister. It was an Art Class which thinking about it know I shouldn't have taken. I like math and science, having a A's in those classes, but as of now after looking at the statistics it means if I get another B or drop below my current 3.95 Im toast..lol this is scaring the bejesus out me. Should I just go the engineering route or actually stick it out in Business? My dream school is UCLA, so I'm not gonna settle for anything less, so it ucla or bust. Also are there people who got accepted with low gpa like 3.8 to 3.85? any feedback is welcomed.</p>
<p>Easy pre-reqs. Very Practically major. The school are tops schools with top recruitment.</p>
<p>Engineering or business? It is up to you. Both are very different and lead to very different career paths.</p>
<p>Since UCLA is your dream school you should complete the TAP program. This will allow you to choose an alternate major like Math/Econ.</p>
<p>Yes it’s extremely difficult. However, business economics= economics + accounting. If you want to go to UCLA for “business”, apply under economics, then try to get into the accounting minor.</p>
<p>Anyone actually get into bizecon last year with a GPA below the admit rate? If so did you have a lot of EC?</p>
<p>Yes there ppl below the average gpa that get in. it is pretty much random. Even ppl with a 4.0 get rejected.</p>
<p>Engineering is less of a crap shoot than bizecon. If you have all the pre reqs done with a high gpa than you are likely to get in. It is not same for Econ. Also I would consider the major rather than just getting into Ucla because engineering and Econ will lead to different careers.</p>
<p>get money get paid! Bus Econ usually leads to Accounting, Consulting, or Investment Banking careers where you make BANK BANK BANK</p>
<p>And having Haas on your Resume is like an auto 70k salary vs a degree from a csu or other uc</p>
<p>^^ more like 57K
<a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm</a></p>
<p>Auto 70K is EECS/CS
<a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/CompSci.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/CompSci.stm</a></p>
<p>Also, only about 2/3s of people that get admitted to Cal as econ actually get to declare the econ major. When you get admitted, you’re admitted into L&S. During your first semester, you have to take one calculus based statistics course and at least one upper div econ course. You’re allowed to declare the major if you get at least a 3.0 in those classes.</p>
<p>Because they are easy majors compared to engineering or science and lead to decent careers. Of course, the starting salaries are a joke. Less than $60k starting out of Haas shows how people look at the undergrad business degree compared to a technical degree from EECS.</p>
<p>I admit though, I’m a business major because I’m not good enough at math.</p>
<p>This is off-topic but I was semi-interested in investment banking. I was looking around and couldn’t find much information about it. Does anyone have a link or some information about it.</p>
<p>“And having Haas on your Resume is like an auto 70k salary vs a degree from a csu or other uc” </p>
<p>Apparently, it is $57,000 which is $1,000 less than the starting salary for a graduate with a BS in Physics. In addition, I would not be surprised if business majors who get their Bachelors degrees from CSUs or other UCs receive starting salaries not much different from what BAs from Haas earn. Companies hiring business majors at the BA/BS level tend to see them as a commodity having pretty much the same business related knowledge and technical skills no matter where they obtained their degree.</p>
<p>Where the prestige of the business school really makes a difference in the number of offers of employment and starting salary is at the MBA level. The MBA degree is the essential credential one needs to be considered for leadership positions in most large companies. Investment Banks and consulting firms almost always require an employee to have an MBA to be on the fast track for managerial positions. Unlike the Bachelors degree level, the leading companies hire MBA almost exclusively from a fairly small group of the most prestigious graduate schools of business. If you can get an MBA from Harvard you will almost certainly become a millionaire. My younger sister married a Harvard MBA and now lives an existance that I could never aspire to even though I am an MD who graduated from a good US medical school, did my residency at a highly respected medical center and have a successful medical practice.</p>
<p>I can understand why admission to a top rated graduate school of business would be highly competitive but this level of competition for admission to a BA/BS program in business does not make sense to me.</p>
<p>I agree with everything Lemaitre said. To be honest, Haas isn’t nearly as competitive as one might believe. Really, it isn’t. 25% acceptance rate and the most advanced prerequisite is calculus I.</p>
<p>@Lemataire. That exactly my point. Why are they making it so tought to get in, when getting the master is difficult on its own. I still can’t fathom it, but maybe some of the people who have graduated from either Hass (CAL) or Anderson (UCLA) can tell us.</p>
<p>anderson is only at the graduate level iirc. pretty sure UCLA’s biz-econ is in L&S</p>
<p>I still can’t decide to declare bizecon or engineering. I know going with business is broad, but the outcome (money) could be huge if you land a job with a reputable firm. On the other hand, as an engineer you high paying salary with an inclining rate of payscale with years of experince added. Its a tough choice, do I got the business route which I’m about 40 percent done with or go the engineering route which I have about 25 percent of classes done. My goal is UCLA, but engineering would keep me at a JC for another year maybe two how its looking with the buget cuts. Its a tough choice, but it would be nice if I can get some feedback from people in both areas of work or in school to do either.</p>
<p>engineering flexible too; i remember some guy on here saying he, and a few others, worked in an accounting firm and all had engineering degrees. my advice is do with what interests you more (and if niether) then do what pays more.</p>
<p>a friend of mine’s dad is an engineer and he makes like 15k a month iirc (taxes rapes that but it’s still a lot of money)</p>
<p>beyphy, when applying to ucla or cal, is there two gpa’s. One with all the pre-req and how you did vs other random classes. I would have a 4.0 GPA at the moment if it wasn’t for the stupid Art class. just wondering?</p>
<p>i couldn’t give you an accurate description. Admissions factors are so unpredictable that anything i would be telling you would be nothing more than conjecture. my intuition would say that don’t sweat it. I doubt they’ll look at your one B in art history and automatically disqualify you. Look at your B as dodging a bullet, and try not to get anymore. If that can keep you motivated, you should have no problem getting into UCLA or CAL</p>