<p>SAT = IQ test,</p>
<p>Simple as that. </p>
<p>It’s at least as good as any other IQ test out there. Other IQ tests, like the Wonderlic, also assume a particular cultural background. It’s fair to say that if you’re foreign or you are just somehow atypical, your SAT score won’t correlate well with your IQ score. But, for typical Americans, it does.</p>
<p>no, sat does NOT equal IQ
people can hire tutors/take prep classes to raise their sat scores by hundreds of points, but you Intelligence Quotienst (supposedly) can not fluctuate more than 5 points. the college board says that the sat measures what you have learned and how you can apply that knowlledge. IQ measures your capacity for cognitive thought.</p>
<p>however, i think silverturtle had a good point when he said a person with a very low IQ could not score very high on the SAT, thus there is some correlation</p>
<p>Measuring intelligence is possible with numbers, but in all honesty, what really constitutes “smart”?</p>
<p>I don’t know about correlation with IQ, but I feel certain that the SAT measures something other than “intelligence,” or at least, measures something in addition to intelligence. It does measure some knowledge (such as vocabulary), but it also measures some kind of pattern-recognition ability that translates as a “knack” for taking standardized multiple-choice tests. Maybe that’s intelligence, but it’s a pretty specific kind, and it may not mean that the same person possesses other kinds of intelligence.</p>
<p>To pozuelo7:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Most people cannot raise their score by taking SAT prep classes. Here’s a link: <a href=“College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools”>College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools. The research on coaching effects on SAT scores were published in a peer-reviewed journal, meaning it’s not just collegeboard researchers making false claims. The journal publication is “Effects of Coaching on SAT I: Reasoning Test Scores” by D.E.
Powers and D.A. Rock, Journal of Educational Measurement, 36 (1999), 93–117.</p></li>
<li><p>The collegeboard does not want to call the SAT an IQ test because that would lead to it being much less likely to be accepted by the public. See [What</a> does the SAT test? - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2004/07/04/the_sat_tests/]What”>http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2004/07/04/the_sat_tests/)</p></li>
<li><p>Almost all academic tests correlate with IQ tests to some degree.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>To Hunt:</p>
<p>I’m not in the mood right now for splitting hairs over the definition of intelligence. Suffice it to say, vocabulary size correlates very, very highly with IQ. In fact, researchers sometimes use vocabulary size as a proxy for IQ. As for Hunt’s comment about pattern-recognition: see “Raven’s Progressive Matrices.”</p>
<p>Here’s a hint: Everyone on the internet has 120+ IQ and a 8+ inch dick.</p>
<p>[Wiley</a> InterScience :: Session Cookies](<a href=“http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118793086/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0]Wiley”>http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118793086/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0)</p>
<p>Personable is the most naive individual on this forum trying to make worthless arguments on the relationship between the SAT and IQ. His argument fails terribly, but yet his arrogant stupidity drives him to post more and more worthless drivel.</p>
<p>Call me naive and stupid if you wish. I don’t care. I don’t need to make arguments because they’ve already been made.</p>
<p>I’ll just repost the link I posted earlier: [Wiley</a> InterScience :: Session Cookies](<a href=“http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118793086/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0]Wiley”>http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118793086/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0)</p>
<p>yeah, i did look up the incorrect IQ for your sister’s score (it’s 118, not 128), but it’s not a big deal anyhow. the arguments frey and detterman have made still stand. and my arguments regarding your score still stand.</p>
<p>… and you seem to not understand that a percentile on the SAT (relative to high school students interested in attending 4 year colleges that require the SAT) is not the same as a percentile on an IQ test (which is relative to the general population).</p>
<p>The SAT is not an IQ test so don’t try to treat it as an IQ test. What next? ACT as an IQ test? Jesus.</p>
<p>this is the link to the frey and detterman study of the SAT that shows “the SAT is mainly a test of g [general intelligence]”: [Wiley</a> InterScience :: Session Cookies](<a href=“http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118793086/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0]Wiley”>http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118793086/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0)</p>
<p>Frey, M. C. and D. K. Detterman (2004). “Scholastic Assessment or g?” Psychological Science 15(6): 373-378.</p>
<p>the link i posted earlier was broken. you should at least be able to see the abstract with this link. if this link doesn’t work, i’ll quit trying to post it</p>
<p>Yes, for many high school seniors, ACT scores correlate with IQ test scores. But the ACT is not ashamed of calling itself an achievement test and it relies more on what high school students have learned throughout their academic careers, whereas the SAT requires much less knowledge and tests how that knowledge gets applied.</p>
<p>The SAT, in its own words, tries to test “reasoning skills” which probably ends up being two things:</p>
<ul>
<li><p>Does the testee have enough knowledge to answer algebra/reading questions? Is he familiar with algebra/reading (most high school students should be by the time they take the SAT)?</p></li>
<li><p>IQ</p></li>
</ul>
<p>The ACT measures knowledge… which indirectly taps IQ, because it ends up that IQ determines how much knowledge a student gains to a large extent.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, all “reasoning” and IQ tests are different and just because you have a low SAT score doesn’t mean you’re dumb. Both IQ tests and the SAT were originally designed to test how well a student would do academically, but what’s most important is how well the student does academically, not what his IQ or SAT scores are. Nevertheless, I can’t fault colleges for attempting to only accept students that are most likely to be successful.</p>
<p>My IQ is 144 (WISC-III) and my GPA is only 3.7 with no AP classes; my PSAT scores were really good but not fantastic. Just took the SAT on Oct 10; no results yet (they are delayed) and I am expecting good but not great scores. </p>
<p>Academics bore me and I have to take ADD meds to concentrate. Most of the time my mind is off in another universe. I know a few people from Mensa and to be honest, none of us are well-balanced students. Most are maladjusted or very focused on one or two areas of interest to the detriment of everything else. </p>
<p>Bottom line: Better to be a diligent student with high GPA and good test scores than a slacker genius with the potential to do everything and the desire to do nothing.</p>
<p>What’s cutoff for genius in the Otis lennon IQ test?
I want to know if i was close.</p>
<p>Here is a link to Mensa qualifying IQs: </p>
<p>[American</a> Mensa | Qualifying Test Scores](<a href=“http://us.mensa.org/Content/AML/NavigationMenu/Join/SubmitTestScores/QualifyingTestScores/QualifyingScores.htm#college_prep_tests]American”>http://us.mensa.org/Content/AML/NavigationMenu/Join/SubmitTestScores/QualifyingTestScores/QualifyingScores.htm#college_prep_tests)</p>
<p>I can’t find any good guidelines about the OLSAT; I know Woodcock-Johnson starts at 132 for gifted whereas WISC starts at 130. Genius at the WISC is 140 and Woodcock Johnson, I believe, is @ 144, mas o menos.</p>