<p>Why is Penn ranked 4th in US News rankings?</p>
<p>I know US News rankings are just for fun, but why is Penn considered to be better than all the other beast schools (according to US News)?</p>
<p>$$$$$$$</p>
<p>Who knows</p>
<p>Do they really have better programs? I would assume the engineering programs, etc. at other schools (especially MIT/Caltech) would outweigh what Penn has to offer. On the other hand, Penn is very diverse, social school.</p>
<p>Penn's Medical and Business schools are the oldest in the country. Its undergraduate Buisness program (Wharton) is the best in the country.</p>
<p>Because the magazine editor went to Penn..Look the consensus is that Penn is a good school, but not number 4 in the country. Do we really need another thread on it?</p>
<p>Do you think the magazine editor would really have that much influence over the rankings? I found this on the webpage with the actual ranks:</p>
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Appeared in a different category of schools last year. The school was reclassified by the Carnegie Foundation in 2004.
N/A means that the data were not provided by the school.
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<p>Here's the link: <a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php</a></p>
<p>It's a little excerpt on the bottom.</p>
<p>Does that mean that the Carnegie Foundation was more affiliated with the ranks?!</p>
<p>I don't want to make a big deal out of this, but I'm just curious of why this is!</p>
<p>As for the Carnegie Foundation note, I think it refers to a school originally classified as a liberal arts college being re-classified as a national university. I believe University of Richmond faced this situation this year if I'm not mistaken... or at least that's what I heard.</p>
<p>These lists are only created so that people can say "What the ****? ______ should be #_ and ________ doesn't deserve to be in the top _____"</p>
<p>your right about carnegie kfc4u. It has no offiliation with any rankings, just a way for colleges to define themselves</p>
<p>Would it be okay for me to say "Penn is not better than MIT". My friend is convinced that Penn is the 4th most prestigious, best (whatever it is) university in the nation.</p>
<p>I hate sweeping generalizations, but for engineering and math, MIT is on a whole different level then Penn. MIT is generally regarded as more prestigious too.</p>
<p>Doesn't it make you curious of why MIT is so notorious for being so rigorous when it comes to math/science? What's the hype about?!</p>
<p>"Because the magazine editor went to Penn..Look the consensus is that Penn is a good school, but not number 4 in the country. Do we really need another thread on it?"</p>
<p>This is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. Do they just make up the numbers then?</p>
<p>There is really no difference whatsoever between the schools in the top 10. (Maybe even top 15. Maybe even top 20.) Finding the differences, as in the difference between Penn being 4th and being 9th, is really just personal preference. At that level, any percieved difference in quality or prestige is basically all personal.</p>
<p>Being ranked higher than another college does not necessarily make it...</p>
<p>... better than the colleges below it
... more prestigious than the colleges below it
... more well-known than the colleges below it
... have better opportunities than the colleges below it
... a better fit for you than the colleges below it</p>
<p>etc. you get the picture. </p>
<p>besides, these rankings will change next year anyway. and listen to what semiserious wrote above cuz that's reality.</p>
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Doesn't it make you curious of why MIT is so notorious for being so rigorous when it comes to math/science? What's the hype about?!
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<p>...because MIT is hard?</p>
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...because MIT is hard?
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<p>Yes.. so.. insight..ful..</p>
<p>Anyway, let's just let this thread die. It's obvious that it's not going anywhere.. not like it was really going anywhere in the first place.</p>
<p>I think the answer was at least as insightful as the question itself.</p>
<p>Does it make you curious why MIT is notorious for its rigor? Why?</p>
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I think the answer was at least as insightful as the question itself.
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<p>Your answer was sufficient and far less pedestrian than the question. Anyone who has the hardihood to call MIT's rigor 'hype' has much more to worry about than USNews rankings.</p>
<p>hey, a lot of the rigor at MIT is self-inflicted. </p>
<p>i wouldn't use "inflicted", as it sounds like you whipped yourself, but my mental thesaurus ran out of batteries.</p>
<p>EDIT: imposed, thats the word</p>