Kelley is The top choice but as an OOS student it is very costly. Please share your thoughts. Thank you!
What are your other options? FWIW, I am a Kelley freshman and am very happy here. Kelley is a top business school and the campus is great, but it is hard to give advice without hearing other options
My daughter is a Kelley sophomore and we are from the New York metro area - and am guessing you are too from your username. IU isn’t cheap, but most of her other options were more expensive with the exception of our state flagship which she was not interested in. If you are already accepted into Kelley, you probably have a scholarship? She is happy at Kelley and has been engaged in the business school from the very beginning and there are endless opportunities…so far I think it is worth the price.
There is a very small scholarship 5K really doesn’t make too much of a dent. Some other options are Binghamton Buffalo (not excited about but very cheap) U Mass Amherst much cheaper plus 10k several more and waiting to hear on some privates RD. I heard everyone loves it but I think perhaps they got more scholarship money?
How large are the classes? Does it feel like a giant school or does it feel like there’s personal attention. How hard are the classes. Are the professors personal or not? Are there many OOS students? Is it difficult to schedule classes ?
Socially do OOS students fit in?
Thank you!
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@iubaccounting
Class sizes vary a lot. So far I have had classes of 25, 25, 250, 100, 200, 25, 50, 50, 250, and 25 people. Some classes like computer classes and business presentations are the smaller ones and you do get some personal attention in those. Other classes are larger because personal attention isn’t as necessary, but you can always go to office hours or talk to the professor after class if you need personal attention in the larger classes.
In my experience, the classes are not that hard - I got a 3.94 first semester. Just to give some perspective my HS stats are 4.4 WGPA and 34 ACT - not trying to brag, just trying to give some context. I have many friends who are definitely above average academically but with lower stats than me that are also doing well. There are a lot of OOS students in Kelley especially, and I think overall it’s like 30% OOS for the university.
If you try to make friends, you will definitely fit in socially as an OOS student. People with more credits schedule first. I came in with about 30 credits and did not get the exact schedule I wanted either semester, but was able to easily get into all of the classes I needed to take. They do a good job of adding more sections if a class gets filled that a lot of people need to take.
@iubaccounting thank you that’s very helpful inside look at the school.
No problem. Let me know if you think of anything else
I would agree with everything that @iubaccounting said. Kelley is about 50% out of state and the KLLC is created to be very diverse, so my daughter lived with students all over the world last year - literally. Her closest circle of friends are are all out of staters. Scheduling can be tricky, but she has eventually (through waitlists) gotten everything she has wanted and needed - maybe just not at the time of day that she wanted it. She has done well, but worked hard. She said that the work isn’t necessarily difficult, but there is a lot of work in many classes.
@scrabblemomb @iubaccounting I was wondering if you know other OOS who attend with no or a very small merit scholarship? Or are most OOS students ones who received top dollars to reduce the overly costly OOS tuition? Worried about the $$$ thank you!
It doesn’t matter to you what most OOS students do, it matters what you personally can afford. That said, it is pretty rare for an OOS student to get significantly more than $11,000 a year, so most of them are paying a lot of money. If you can’t afford IU, then that’s perfectly okay, but you need to make sure you have other options.
I can tell you that there is no way I would be here if my parents/I had to pay $30,000+ a year. I turned down a full tuition scholarship to Manchester University, a small Indiana private school with a solid business program, but the cost difference was only about $3000 a year for me
@iubaccounting thank you for your honesty. It’s not so much about what you I afford. It’s more about is it worth it with the price tag. Of course, in addition to the out of state price there are the flights home. I have many other options, including SUNY which is not OOS, and other B schools that are closer cheaper and gave me a better merit. However, I think despite the issues I like Kelley.
Looks like Kelley is expensive for OOS but it is very well ranked. US News ranks the undergraduate program as a 10. Your highest NY public option is CUNY-Baruch at 61 for undergraduate. And if you want a SUNY the highest rated is ranked at 80 (Buffalo). Others are ranked above 100. Naturally there are others that that are highly ranked but not in the CUNY or SUNY system.
I am in the same boat. I was recently admitted to IU as a direct to Kelley. Unfortunately, my application was not in until January as I had no idea that Indiana was a good option until recently. So I have to decide between South Carolina honors program at 18K a year with scholarships or Kelley at 47K. I also have the option of the UConn business school as I am from CT. I am trying to petition IU to see if there are any scholarships at all to help at least narrow the difference as IU is my clear first choice. If anyone has any info on scholarships outside of the deadline feel free to share 
Thoughts on the price/value would be great too. Indiana would require loans.
For many top students, the $11K scholarship + direct admit are enough reasons to select Kelley. There are certainly other schools that offer comparable opportunities. I directed DS3 away from U of M, Berkeley, Virginia due to the limited prospect of scholarship compared to what IUB would offer. I would not recommend IU Kelley if your parents have to pay $30K or more compared to your other IS options for average families. This is applicable to all public schools. Now, if you are interested in IB or consulting but did not focus enough in high school, Kelley may be your best choice. Do well in Kelley and you will have a chance to compete with kids from schools similar to those listed above.
You can be successful with a degree from many state schools as long as you have the critical thinking skill, a logical mind, good work ethic and are willing to work hard. Spending too much money for coming to IU compared to your other options may not be worthwhile.
@ace550 I understand what you are saying but I’m a little confused. Do you recommend Kelley or not? For example as compared to UMass where I have a better scholarship?
@NewYorker404 Have you visited all of the schools that are options for you? There is no magic answer as to what is the best value / fit for every person. Sounds like you are favoring Kelley - it is a well ranked business school with lots of opportunities for its students. I am sure many Kelley OOS students do not have a top scholarship (1/2 the business school is OOS). Top scholars often turn down offers from the ivy league schools. But when visiting some of your other options, you might feel a good fit while on campus. Much of your success upon graduation will come from what you achieve on campus vs. rankings of the schools. I was a corporate recruiter for many years and a hard working kid who did really well at their state university was just as attractive as a kid who rested on the laurels of a top ranked program- with few exceptions. Also, what do your parents think? Hope they are helping you in this process. Good luck to you!
Touching on this again, for me personally its between Kelley, to which I’m a direct admit and got the 10k scholarship to bring it to about 33k total per year OOS, and Iowa State, who gave me lots of scholarships and would cost me about 18k total per year OOS. I plan to study accounting or finance or both, and IU Kelley is ranked top 10 in the country and even specializes in finance with the IBW and other programs and is solid in accounting too. Iowa State is ranked just outside the top 100 from what I’ve seen, but does seem to have nonetheless good placement and solid CPA pass rates for accounting. I am into thew honors colleges at both, and am wondering if IU is worth that extra 15k ish per year
@SFgiantsStyle Depends on whether you can afford the extra 60k, where you would prefer attending etc. Only you can make that decision
NY404,
UMass’s Isenberg is a respectable institute based upon the following link.
https://www.isenberg.umass.edu/about/rankings
It sounds like that you will need $40K/yr to come to IU. How much do you need to go to UMass? If you get to save $30K for 4 yrs going to UMass, it would be a better choice. Otherwise, “feel” may be the deciding factor.
SFS,
ISU is a pretty good school too. If your goal is IB or Consulting, the $60K premium for coming to Kelley may be worthwhile. Since you can get into Honors programs for both schools, you should be able to do well in Kelley if you stay focused. Just keep in mind that top kids are competing for spots in IBW and CW.
I told my three boys that I would pay $100K for each of them. If they get enough scholarship, the left-over will be available for graduate school or down payment for buying a house. Both of you should discuss with your parents. Good luck!
@ace550 thank you. I’ve seen the numbers regarding UMass rankings. Umass will be a big savings for me because it’s slightly cheaper than Kelley and got a bigger scholarship. In addition, being from NY it is a much cheaper and easier travel.
Looking at the numbers I’m not sure why umass jumped in the rankings and the concern is that it may not be a consistently good. I’m not sure if you know the answer to that? I will be visiting both schools and hopefully will have a better idea after that.