Why oh Why did we had to fall for Yale (EA statistics)

<p>EA admit rate:</p>

<p>Yale 17%</p>

<p>Harvard 28%(!)</p>

<p>How could this happen??????????</p>

<p>Why did the school I fell in love with had to be the hardest school to get into?????!!!!!!</p>

<p>And everybody thinks Harvard is waayyyyy more difficult to get into!</p>

<p>btw, does anybody know the international admit rate or number?</p>

<p>The number for Harvard is erroneous. The correct early admission rate is 21%.</p>

<p>(But your point remains.)</p>

<p>no its right, according to yale see: </p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=31173%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=31173&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>21%was last year....</p>

<p>Yale had the lowest admit rate overall last year.</p>

<p>and this year......</p>

<p>They erred in calculating the Harvard admit rate - even by their own (probably inaccurate) numbers for apps and admits. If - as they say - there were 3,873 apps, and 804 admits, that means an admit rate of 20.8%.</p>

<p>If, on the other hand, Harvard correctly reported its own numbers at 3,812 apps and 812 admits, then the admit rate was 21.3%</p>

<p>You have to wait, really to see who is, and who isn't, counting in their app total apps which were withdrawn or incomplete. Sometimes you don't get the real story on this point until many months after the fact.</p>

<p>Some of the other numbers are also at variance with numbers reported elsewhere.</p>

<p>Yeah flower, but imagine how much harder it is to get into Harvard if you're not EA after that. Like me. Competition's stiff at either school.</p>

<p>Consider this from today's YDN:</p>

<p>"Harvard University had the fifth most selective rate, admitting 807 of its 3,872 applicants for an early acceptance rate of 28.1 percent, a sizeable jump from last year's 21 percent."</p>

<p>He should have reported "for an early acceptance rate of 20.8%, little changed from last year."</p>

<p>do you think this means that perhaps the yale RD rate will be... greater than usual? or no.. hehe.. sorry im just trying to get a little hope here T_T</p>

<p>Dunno. But this little tidbit might be of interest to some:</p>

<p>"Last year, about 13 percent of deferred students were accepted in regular decision."</p>

<p>Don't complain... MIT was 12% early...</p>

<p>eh, that 13% is a faint glimmer of hope for us deferred. But i'm gonna hang on with all my might!</p>

<p>Can somebody figure out the international EA admit rate? It would seem to me that if the limit on international undergraduate admits is in the range of 9% of the total pool, the EA international admit rate is much lower than the 17% overall rate. For practical purposes there are about 130 international admits of which going by historical profile of the undergraduate composition probably 60 will be from China and Korea, about 10 from Canada and about 5 each from India, Britain and Germany. This leaves about 45 places for the rest of the world more or less randomly distributed. With her scores and school marks I would think flowertje is still very competitive in that pool if she wants to go to Yale for the right reasons. I would not bet the farm on it but unless there is another star candidate from Holland coming out of the woodwork in the RD round she would have to look very good. Since as a dutch national she can get EU rates at Oxford or Cambridge (plus portable student financing) , I wonder if she has applied there as well. Personally I would think that she would be quite happy at Merton.</p>

<p>Rough calc for int'l EA stats using data from admitted student site:
405 applied, 58 accepted, 14.32% rate.</p>

<p>not sure how the previous post got "130 admit" for int'l?</p>

<p>paleozoic, flowetje is no doubt one of the most powerful int'l candidates this year on CC but there's one thing we've gotta see. It deals with princeton, but nonetheless, is applicable here. I was the ONLY applicant ED princeton from Norway, and usually there are between 1-3 applicants every year RD. I got flat out rejected ED, with not too terrible stats. Hopefully flowertje gets in at yale but we cannot say that she will because of the diversity only/strongest applicant from the country stuff.</p>

<p>Callthecops2: your experience highlights just how competitive the International pool really is. I'm suprised at fbc001's calculation of the international EA admit rate. I would have thought it to be lower since I assumed there would be in any case no more than 130 international spots for the class of 2010. </p>

<p>It seems to have been deliberate policy for several years now to limit the international composition of the undergraduate student body at Harvard, Princeton and Yale to 9-10% of the total student body. This is still extremely generous given the finanacial aid implication of international admits and is therefore unlikely to change very much. Given a 1500 member class, 9 % translates into about 130 spots. Of these spots about 60 seem consistently to be filled by students from China and Korea, leaving about 70 for the rest of the world. </p>

<p>It struck me that the vast majority of the EA international admits that were posted on CC seemed to be from China and thus reasoned that given the diversity driver, there were enough EA applicants from SE Asia for Yale to select statistically the most promising. This leaves the deferred international EA's exactly that, deferred not deselected until they can be compared with the rest of the International pool. On paper I can see almost no difference between the credentials of the EA international admitted and the EA international deferred. Hence my conclusion that flowertjes odds are not all that bad.</p>

<p>Comments anyane?</p>

<p>whow i'm so flattered!!!!!!! I really hope you're right paleozoic! btw how do you people know my stats by head?</p>

<p>I did not apply to oxbridge because one of the major reasons I want to go to america is the wide liberal arts undergraduate programs, in england when you study for instance economics 95% of your classes is about that. And my interests are so wide that I would go crazy there!</p>

<p>And even with financial support its 8000/9000 dollars, cheap compared to yale maybe, but my parents can only pay 3500 and Yale has Need Blind finaid so i'm a lot cheaper of then!</p>

<p>and i'm in love with yale and oxbridge seems dull and boring compared to it ;)</p>

<p>paleozoic: of the harvard admits 18% (!) was international, according to them because globalizantion and diversity and stuff. At Yale on the other hand only ±7% of the admits was international.</p>

<p>This shows that the 9/10 % isn't always true, and i'm hoping yale will follow harvards example in the Rd round!!</p>

<p>flowertje: if you google Harvard student statistics you will find the breakdown for the class of 2009. <a href="http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/prospective/applying/stats/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/prospective/applying/stats/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The way I read this the class contains 8.2% internationals. This is about the same as the level I computed for Yale. It is very much a crapshoot. If you are serious about a good liberal arts education, that you will certainly be able to afford why not look at Univerity College Utrecht which is modelled after Smith or Roosevelt in Middelburg</p>

<p>OMFGGGGGGG</p>

<p>339 DAYS until YALE '11 SCEA DECISIONS!</p>