Why so hard for OOS?

<p>I am wondering why it is so hard for OOS students to get into UVA as transfers and otherwise? I know UVA has the wonderful program for CC students and that it is a state school but isn't every school looking to broaden the range of students that matriculate at their institution? I am curious. </p>

<p>I even spoke to a counselor at my university and the first thing out of her mouth about UVA was that it is difficult to get in as an OOS transfer.</p>

<p>If anyone can enlighten me, I would appreciate it.</p>

<p>As a state school, UVA is required by law to have 2/3 in state student population, that might have something to do with it. =)</p>

<p>Lots of schools like UVa have instate requirements. UT and UNC have a higher requirement. So there are not many spots, and some go to athletes and others go in international students, then there are special talents etc. Even worse there is a baby boomlet hitting college right now. Either this year or next year is the peak. Most HS grads are going on to college so there is a glut of applicants. Make getting in anywhere selective just a bit harder right now.</p>

<p>plus, oos applicants make up ~2/3 of the pool. but 2/3 of the admitted have to be in state.</p>

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<p>Are you sure the number of oos applicant really that high? so out of lets say 18000 applicants this year 12000 are oos? that seems off to me for some reason.</p>

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That's pretty close. Of the 18,500 applications currently in the system, about 7,300 are from Virginians.</p>

<p>Just to clarify one thing...UNC is much easier to get into as an oos transfer than it as a freshmen. UNC does not care where you're coming from if you're a transfer student. On one of the UNC threads I was looking at, the average transfer GPA was a very attainable 3.5. Also, UNC is supposed to be one of the best public schools in giving oos transfer financial aid.</p>

<p>Let's look at pure statistics. In 2007, UVa had 17,798 undergraduate applications. They only made offers to 6,273 students. That means that there were about 6,000 Virginia applicants and 12,000 OOS applicants. Since 4,000 of those offers must be IS and 2,000 are OOS, roughly 2/3 of IS applicants will be offered admission and only 1/6 of OOS applicants will be offered admission. This means that you are over 4 times as likely to be offered admission as an Virginia applicant versus and OSS applicant.</p>

<p>^^^ Wrong. UVA is not granting acceptance to two-thirds of VA residents.</p>

<p>The admit rate for Virginians last year was about 44%.</p>

<p>the admit rate isn't 2/3 but the number of SPOTS for instate is about 2/3.</p>

<p>But uva does offer a lot more oos spots than unc. and aren't the average sats for is at uva much higher than unc making it harder to get into uva is or oss than unc?</p>

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<p>UNC:
98.6% reported at least one SAT I score
Average SAT score (Critical Reading + Mathematics) was 1302
Middle 50% scored between 1210 and 1400</p>

<p>UVA
ADMISSION STATS (CLASS ENTERING 2007)
18,048 applications
6,274 offers of admission
3,260 students enrolling
88 percent of enrolling students ranked in top tenth of class
1280-1490 middle half of class SAT I </p>

<p>Those are the avg. stats overall, not divided into IS/OOS. But I think it shows that it probably pretty much evens out for OOS applicants. UVA accepts (roughly) 33% OOS, while UNC admits ~18% OOS. However, the avg. scores at UNC are slightly lower.Therefore, the student who makes the cut at UVA will geverally need higher scores to dip into the top-tier of applicants there. Because of this, they will therefore have higher scores than the upper-tier UNC applicants. Thus, a student OOS admitted to one of the two will have a decent shot at admission to the other.</p>

<p>Then again, college admissions are a complete crapshoot. But statistics-wise, that would be realistic. Just like a student admitted to Harvard will often be a great candidate for Yale as well, even though it doesn't always work out that way.</p>

<p>You guys keep on mentioning admissions stats for freshmen, but yet the OP was actually concerned about transfering.---> "I even spoke to a counselor at my university and the first thing out of her mouth about UVA was that it is difficult to get in as an OOS transfer."</p>

<p>I think learnmestuff was talking about carnut's post.</p>

<p>So what exactly would be a rough estimate as to the percentage of OOS transfer accepted, and the GPA range for those accepted? (I don't need specific numbers, just maybe a rough range of like 30-40% or 3.6-3.8)
Gracias.</p>