<p>1)Financial Aid
2)Europe is Boring
3)Far greater Oppurtunities in US</p>
<p>europe may be boring for u pal,certainly not for me!</p>
<p>I agree, Anyways where would you like to have your MS/MBA done US or Europe.</p>
<p>me personally, europe..but again its a personal decision ,completely...i might prefer europe while many might prefer the US..</p>
<p>In Germany for example you can are some good universities and they are cheep till now. So if someone want to go to Germany, do this now!
But I think also about the question, Uk or USA. And I don´t know....</p>
<p>^^^^^
of course you can´t "are some good univerities" sorry i mean there are some good universities :)</p>
<p>Yeah!! Germany for engineering!!!!</p>
<p>abhishiv don´t you get financial aid in the UK?</p>
<p>there is no financial aid for non residents or EU citizens in UK... the concept is not prevalent. and well all students get a very meager amount scholarships.. </p>
<p>SM</p>
<p>but ofcourse by all standards UK works out cheaper than USA without finaid at both places...</p>
<p>It all depends on personal choice and the amount of financial backing you have from your family</p>
<p>SM</p>
<p>The US has a wider selection of colleges, majors, environments, and cities than almost any other country. Plus in many countries, the prestiege of having a degree from an American university makes the cost of going to the US for college well worth it.</p>
<p>[smartmind] Studying at Oxbridge can be actually quite expensive if you are a non-EU student. Adding up tuition, college fees and room/board, it comes to over 20,000 pounds/year (or 40,000 US dollars), which is more than you would have to pay, I believe, in a public university in the US (like Cal Berkeley for example).</p>
<p>Woooooaah..... someone's really crossed a line when they said "europie is boring"......... Europe is far from boring, its probably a much more interesting place than the US in my opion (except for the language barrier).
The only reason i'm not applying colleges in Europe is due to the language problem, except in UK where i am applying.
But lets face it, how many colleges in the UK are on par with the ivies/MIT/stanf....etc.
1. Oxford 2. Cambridge 3. London School of Economics 4. Imperial
And to some extent (not much):
5. University College London 6. University of Warwick 7. Kings College London</p>
<p>Out of the four top-tier unis, you can only either choose oxford or cambridge (minus one option) and imperial is only for science (not for me so ....minus one more option)
so there are only two colleges in UK (and effectively the rest of the world also) that i am as entusiastic about attending as HYP/Stanf/...etc.</p>
<p>Please don't flame me and say that there are many other respectable unis in other countries, the above is simply my opinion based on my interests.</p>
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Just a small reminder that to avail of the cheap/free fees in the EU you must be an EU citizen and have lived in the region for 3 of the past 5 years for any reason that is not soly due to education. I hope that makes sense. It is the way the unis/goverment usualy word the clause.
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This is a very good point. I had looked into whether my DD would qualify for home fees as a EU Citizen at some universities in Ireland and the UK. It turned out that almost all of them had some kind of restriction that indicated that even if you were a EU citizen, you had to live in the EU for a certain amount of time before you would qualify for home fees. Hence, for EU citizens that live outside of the EU (e.g. permanent residents and dual citizens), you may not be able to go to school in the EU for cheap.</p>
<p>That is not true at every university. I'd love to see a couple of links so I know which schools have that rule. </p>
<p>I get the cheap fees at my uni just by showing my EU passport, even though at the time I enrolled I had never lived in the country of my second citizenship.</p>
<p>nauru, what school are you attending in the EU? Here are a few examples of UK and Irish Universities that indicate that you must have lived in the EU for three years in order to qualify for home fees:</p>
<p>[Trinity</a> College<a href="Dublin">/url</a> indicates that, "Tuition fees will be paid in respect of EU nationals who have been ordinarily resident in an EU Member State for at least three of the five years preceding their entry to their third-level course .." </p>
<p>[url=<a href="http://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/finance/fee-status.html%5DThe">http://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergraduate/finance/fee-status.html]The</a> University of Edinburgh](<a href="http://www.tcd.ie/Treasurers_Office/Fees12.htm%5DTrinity">http://www.tcd.ie/Treasurers_Office/Fees12.htm) indicates that, "a student who is a national of a member state of the European Union, or who is the child of such a national if - (i) the student has been ordinarily resident in the European Economic Area (EEA2) or Switzerland throughout the three-year period preceding 1 September, 1 January or 1 April closest to the beginning of the first term of his/her course..."</p>
<p>Oxford</a> University : (a) the person has been ordinarily resident throughout the three-year period preceding the relevant date, in the case of a person mentioned in paragraph 1, in the United Kingdom and Islands or, in the case of a person mentioned in paragraphs 5 to 8, in the European Economic Area or Switzerland; and (b) his residence in the United Kingdom and Islands, or in the European Economic Area or Switzerland, as the case may be, has not during any part of the period referred to in sub-paragraph a) been wholly or mainly for the purpose of receiving full-time education.</p>
<p>Why U.S.? Simple. The United States of America is the best, the most powerful, and the richest country in the world. Do I sound a little arrogant? I'm sorry.</p>
<p>As far as I know the rule concerning EU fees for Trinity College Dublin is standard at all Irish universities. It was the same rule (even worded the same way) at the university I attneded in Ireland.</p>
<p>MSMDAD, I'm at the University of Amsterdam. Dutch universities don't seem to have that rule. Or maybe it's technically on the books at all European universities, but enforcement is not uniform. In a few minutes of searching on google, I only came across British schools with this rule. That's a bit annoying but even so it is still cheaper than studying as a foreigner at equally well-known (and even lesser-known) universities in the US.</p>
<p>Right now I live in a third world country (and have been so for the past 7 years), so I'm desperate to get out of here.
Why? Because universities here are not certified outside the MENA (Middle East and North Africa) and I want to work somewhere in Europe or the US.</p>
<p>And the quality of education here is crap. College education (or higher education as they call it here) is the most backwards idiotic system I have ever seen in my whole life.
And since there is basically no funding at all, each school (faculty) can't provide what the students need. For example, the morgue in medical school in the city I live in is horrible. The bodies are older than the mummies in the museums and they stinks so bad. The formaline they use to preserve them somehow makes them rot even faster. They inject this red dye into the bodies and just starts dripping all over the floor...it's disgusting!
and there are hardly any choices here. There are 14 universities (more than 2 thirds of which are not accredited outside the country). So basically, it all sucks.
I almost forgot to mention, the class sizes are out of control! Last year, freshman year of medical school in this city had more than 1500 students. Multiply that by 7 (# of years of Medical school).</p>
<p>If it were up to me, I'd just pick anything outside the country. But American universities are accredited world wide and provide quality education. And, as I've been told, the classes are much smaller.
I want a quality education and I can never get it here.</p>