<p>Bovertine - the numbers are cumulative over a 3 year period. I am trying to figure out if we even have 29k seats. The admits are actually at 21k out of 29k for the 3.8 to 4.0 GPA.</p>
<p>I am guessing it is 57k over 3 year period which means about 19-20k seats? This number will start going up since several medical schools have been opened recently.</p>
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Yes, below a certain MCAT level the percentages really drop. That’s why I added the stipulation about reasonable MCAT. It is actually tough for me to believe a student with that high a GPA would score under 30, let alone in the 5 to 14 range, but I guess it happens.</p>
<p>^ that is why the institution matters since you dont get equal knowledge everywhere?</p>
<p>Bovertine, at some colleges, getting a top pre-med gpa- it’s a mightly big “if.” That’s my point. The weeding isn’t about normal dedicaton, focus and smarts. Weeding exists, is brutal. It’s not NHS or some other hurdle. Many great kids are blindsided by the tests and grading. IMO, not an ordinary challenge. And, at schools that do it, it can slurp over into the other classes pre-meds may take- psych, stats, etc. </p>
<p>I know most kids who think they want med school rethink it, for one reason or another. Unlike high school, college is a “buffet” of academic possibilities.</p>
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<p>Yabbut the OP hasn’t heard it before. ;)</p>
<p>My intention in telling the OP the story was to make him/her consider that there are other factors besides maximizing GPA that lead to med school. Discussing the type of overall undergrad experience one has at a tippy-top college versus elsewhere wasn’t what I was targeting. It’s not relevant to the OP’s personal situation. </p>
<p>Totally agree with everything lookingforward has written about weedout coursework and finding a supportive undergrad school.</p>
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<p>Thanks, Bovertine, for that link. Actually, if I’m reading the table correctly, it indicates that applicants with an overall GPA of 3.6 and and MCAT of 30-32 were accepted at a rate of 70%. That’s not a bad rate.</p>
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Which is why I said “of course”. Mighty big, or whatever. I stated a condition and gave actual data based on that condition. I don’t see any argument here. Your point is valid, my data is valid. That’s it.</p>
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Sure, I suppose that’s a logical conclusion. Of course I don’t see anything in this data mentioning specific institutions.</p>
<p>Is Annasdad on vacation?</p>
<p>The more kids he and like-minded posters can convince to forget about applying to the Ivies and other prestigious schools, the better the odds for my D. Hurray!</p>
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A degree from Princeton Medical School would be magical.</p>
<p>Or mythical.</p>
<p>eastcoascrazy’s score just notched up +1. :)</p>
<p>Different people have different ways of evaluating and prioritizing prestige, success, etc. Some people buy the most expensive car they can afford, and polish it several times per year to keep it looking great. Other people DON’T think of a car as a source of prestige, and are happy with whatever is the cheapest vehicle that can them to and from work. Same with colleges…some see it as a very personal expression of themselves, their worth, their intellect, etc. Others see it as a means to getting their desired job, and nothing more.</p>
<p>My daughter chose for us to pay 100% for a Harvard education, even though she was offered several full scholarships to attend other schools. She has had a few bumps, not academically but socially. Now that she lives in an alternative house, she has finally found wonderful people that she loves to be with. In her freshman dorm ,there were 2 princes from other countries who had round the clock security detail. Her Sophomore summer, she applied for a grant to study alternative farming methods in Sweden, and was given the full amount she asked for.Her life is always exciting, and I have found the students at Harvard to be very friendly and welcoming. She has had several offers to stay with International friends this summer. There are some really wealthy snobs, but they tend to stick together at their fancy dining clubs.This is not to say one can’t have a great life anywhere you go, but we are very happy she has a great experience so far.</p>
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<p>Your daughter is very lucky. I hope she appreciates what you are doing.</p>
<p>no kidding. paying the whole bill to go to harvard. It’s crazy to me how much money that is. It’s just insane. But your household must be pretty affluent to not have any aid money for need based assistance. It might have been worthwhile to pay that much for the unique college experience.</p>
<p>2 princes with body guards?? what??</p>
<p>Yes, there were 2 princes equivalent to Prince William, but from other countries. We saw the guys looking just like you would imagine, except no sunglasses. They explained about the added security that night after the parents left. It made me feel very safe to see the added security. It was a cool experience for my D-they were both very nice.</p>
<p>they were both very nice.</p>
<p>That’s good to hear, as I’m sure sometimes such guys are a [dare I say it?] royal pain in the butt.</p>
<p>Sometimes I get tired of it, too, consolation. lol And I agree that her experience at Yale UG would have been different than her experience at Rhodes. Better for her? Who knows? But that ship has sailed. Better for her as a pre-med? She’d argue with you. 
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<p>I can assure you that she was very happy with her opportunities, both social and intellectual, at Rhodes. The school opened her eyes in many ways. She enjoyed her Religious Studies Minor immensely. It’s a special place and she was well-prepared for medical school. Had she had other goals in life, she would have likely chosen differently. </p>
<p>That being said, she is ecstatic with her med school choice. For some on this board, all med schools are the same. Not.For.Her. Compared to the experiences of her friends scattered throughout the country , her med school experience has been appreciably “better”. Again, in her opinion. Less stress and more resources. We laughingly call it Montessori Med. She loves her classmates. Loves being taught by “the guy” in the field. And yeah. Her school does do a great job of getting kids where they want to go. And that was and is very important to her, as an un-abashed and un-apologetic pre-professional. </p>
<p>Couple of things. We weren’t full pay to Yale UG. There was a six figure difference between Rhodes and Yale. She is not full pay to the med school. There is six figure difference there, too, between Yale and the best med schools in Texas. </p>
<p>She did win a Goldwater, as a soph. She is still thinking “academic medicine” and to help make that happen is taking a research year next year (and maybe a sixth year, too). She still wants to practice, teach, and have a lab. Sounds un-likely, but…I’m not sure that I would bet against her. </p>
<p>Her choices are making that possible. ;)</p>