<p>The recent wave of suicides? Does this indicate a larger general dissatisfaction about the Cornell atmosphere? Ithaca, middle of nowhere New York? </p>
<p>Any other suggestions? </p>
<p>**Please be honest in your negative points. I just don't want people who got rejected, randomly bashing the school. It should be sincere complaints/concerns.</p>
<p>I don’t think the recent wave signifies anything whatsoever, other than its a cluster which is a well-recognized phenomenon that occurs from time to time. There were none in the immediately preceding years and the long term rate is average. But depressed individuals who might be prone to overreact to disappointments might think twice about attending any academically challenging institution, Cornell included.</p>
<p>I loved Ithaca. Any place with 30,000 students cannot be in the middle of nowhere, because, by their very presence, they themselves make it somewhere. Add in a very hip town in a metro of 100,000, with beautiful state parks, the finger lakes, and I found being there to be a pleasure. But if you need to be in a big city you should not have applied here in the first place. Since you did apply, the location should not be a reason not to go. The school did not move between the date you submitted your application and the date you received your decision.</p>
<p>So you are zero for two.</p>
<p>Everywhere I go, I only encounter alumni who talk fondly about their time in Ithaca. The atmosphere at Cornell/Ithaca had really no bearing on the suicides. The student’s mental health did.</p>
<p>There is the question of whether or not the presence of the gorges induces mentally unstable students to impulsively take their own life. It might have, and that’s why they have put fences up across the bridges. And after having no suicides for the last five years, three suicides in the span of a month brought a fair amount of caution to the administration. But experts still say that Cornell has the best mental health programs in the country.</p>
<p>Cornell’s probably not the best place to be if you a) tend to stress yourself out for no purpose or b) have underlying mental health issues. Otherwise, the tragedies of last month were unfortunately just some statistical noise.</p>
<p>yes ithaca is beautiful in the summer…but winter is very long and cold…and even if it is nice out…one is often burdened with studying and assignments to actually enjoy it…</p>
<p>people do the normal college partying and hipster concerts and whatnot…but i’ll be shocked to find someone who did not curse ithaca once or twice during their stay there! </p>
<p>depression and suicidal thoughts can get out of hand to any college student…let’s just say that ithaca wouldnt be the WARMEST place to be during an emotional crisis.</p>
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<p>You’re talking to him.</p>
<p>“yes ithaca is beautiful in the summer…”
and Spring, and especially Fall.
Not winter though, I’ll grant you that, good thing christmas break shortens it up a little.</p>
<p>I cursed lots of things during my stay there, but I don’t recall Ithaca being one of them.</p>
<p>I would agree that Cornell does not always exude the warm fuzzies, either thermodynamically or emotionally.</p>
<p>Here are the reasons I contemplated why I shouldn’t go to Cornell (I made a list or pros and cons before deciding on it):
-Cold > I’m from Long Island, and the weather is the same.
-No city > I’m from NYC so I thought this was such a large factor. This ended up being the best aspect. Never again am I going to experience an open atmosphere and huge quads, just laying out with my peers playing frisbee…ugh I’m about to go outside after this.
-Difficult > I performed better than I thought because of the fear I had of the difficulty. It depends a lot on your major, but I enjoy ILR and did amazing.
-No friends going to Cornell > Everyone forms their own clique/group after the first semester and life is great once you do.
-Overpowered Greek/Alcohol Scene > This was the stereotype I got when I heard about Cornell’s massive Greek scene. It’s just hyped up. There’s a lot of kids in the Greek scene but if you don’t want to be apart of it, it will rarely rear its head. If you want to, it’s fun and hazing was cracked down beginning in 2003.
-Price > No, wait, this was a pro lol 10k state tuition at ILR!</p>
<p>But seriously that was my list and I feel ■■■■■■■■ for even thinking all of this because I couldn’t have been more wrong.</p>
<p>the fact that students have recently died by suicide is NOT a reason not to come to Cornell. in fact I think that the school’s responsible response is one reason to would to want to attend.</p>
<p>I think snow is beautiful and Cornell looks just lovely buried under a healthy covering of it. I’ve grown up my whole life with snow and I think it’s relatively nice to be here during the winter because I don’t have to drive! also, when it’s blustery out, I find the dorms very cozy. one of my fondest memories from this past winter was walking alone across campus in the dark right after it had snowed. it was gorgeous.</p>
<p>if you have a serious aversion to a large campus, not just lots of people but lots of walking/hills, you probably wouldn’t be happy here. if you want things very quiet and picturesque you might get frustrated with the traffic through campus. if you [foolishly] want college to be a breeze where you don’t have to work, you will struggle at Cornell because you need to attend class, study, and seek out help. if you are really focused on knowing all the professors you take classes from, like LACs get so excited about, you will be at least occasionally disappointed at Cornell. if you really want a giant city with lots major concert tours stopping by, you won’t find that in Ithaca. (I guess that last one is because I wish I could go to more concerts for specific bands/singers…)</p>
<p>those are honest reasons why I can think someone might not like it here. I personally still feel the same great affinity for the school I had when I came on my first tour and decided I was going to come here, no question.</p>
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<p>Yeah, but at the same time, you can step off onto The Slope, or the A.D. White Gardens, or the Beebe Lake Path, or North Campus Quads, or the Fall Creek Gorge trail, and things get quiet very quickly.</p>
<p>So weather seems to be pretty sucky…anything else?</p>
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if you do not like winter than this is true … however the weather is essentially the same as it is in Boston for example … it does not really standout compared to the rest of the Northeast … this is a little surprising because other upstate NY location (Syracuse and Rochester for example) have much more severr winters.</p>
<p>To me the biggest attributes some don’t like beside the weather are the size of the school and being in a college town (not near a big city) … for some both of these are a big draw while for others an issue.</p>
<p>InvisibleMan - Why do you care? I’m curious because it appears from your previous posts that you won’t be going to Cornell anyway. You are bashing Cornell at every chance and giving out ill-informed opinions on other threads. Leave it alone, OK?</p>
<p>He cares because he’s a ■■■■■.</p>
<p>invisibleman, you’re going through a frustrating (and I am guessing disappointing) period right now. This time of the year is difficult for many, many students. Hang in there, you’ll get through it. </p>
<p>Your question is fair. Obviously no school is perfect for everybody, and Cornell is no exception. The opportunities and resources at Cornell are both vast, but rarely will you find these opportunities gift-wrapped and handed to you. Cornell would not be a good fit for those who want that extra attention. </p>
<p>On the other hand, those who are skilled at seeking out these resources will find a tremendously rewarding 4 years in Ithaca.</p>
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<p>Cornell rejection it seems?</p>