Wierd Situation

<p>hello all you have probably seen me on the threads but USAFA is my #1 choice. Heres the scenario though:</p>

<p>I am a high school student who is taking commun ity college classes as a junior in order to get an AA degre before I graduate. </p>

<p>I am somewhat confused as to how to approach the application and nomination. Here are some questions I have:

  1. Am I able to transfer the credits?
  2. Will the USAFA look highly upon the accomplishment?
  3. Will they take it into consideration for the gpa portion of admissions?
  4. What else should I know?</p>

<p>Stats:
3.73 UW
4.11 W</p>

<p>All honors/ dual enrollment courses</p>

<p>3.85 CC gpa
(Presidents list for first year)</p>

<p>SAT: (the bad part of my application)
1170 Composite :frowning:
540 CR, 630 MATH, 540 Writing</p>

<p><em>I plan on taking it again though and trying the ACT</em></p>

<p>VERY FIT: 5:45 Mile, many pushups etc</p>

<p>Ec’s:

  • Eagle Scout
  • Went to a leadership conference in Wash. Dc
  • Commmunity service 75+ hours at a library
  • Varsity wrestling [10th] W/Letter
  • JV Wrestling [11]
  • Varsity Track [10]
  • NHS [12]
  • Few others</p>

<p>Basically your reading someones post whos dedicated and seems like he is worthy of admission. I know if I dont give up the USAFA cannot deny me forever :P. ( Although they can which is a scary thought I must forget)</p>

<p>No, yes, yes, lots ;) Seriously, I'd focus on the SATs/ACTS. Take them often since they will only count the best scores. Read these boards for more info and check out the website carefully, especially timelines. <a href="http://www.academyadmissions.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.academyadmissions.com&lt;/a>. Try to seek out leadership roles in your sports or other activities where possible. Start making contacts with your MOCs. Get their applications; check out their timetables. Consider a prep course for the SAT/ACT. Don't worry, you look pretty good!</p>

<p>On transfer credits, it's more about passing tests to get out of prerequisites so that your college credits by themselves won't help unless they help YOU pass those tests!</p>

<p>Yes, do put a really high priority on getting those SAT/ACT scores up this spring. The tests are not offered in the summer and your application will probably be considered non-competitive (thus closed) unless you have a verbal SAT score above 580, or the equivalent ACT score. Test prep really does help and someone with your qualifications can get those scores well up in the 600's with some work. Put some time into it every single day and it will pay huge dividends. Good luck!</p>

<p>so basically if i dont raise my verbal then i have no chance?</p>

<p>It would be worth a call to an admissions counselor, but right now it looks like your SAT scores will keep you out no matter how well you're doing in everything else. My wife just finished tutoring a West Point applicant with SAT's in the low 500's. They wouldn't open his file. When he got his scores up into the 600's he was just now accepted. She tutored a similar hopeful for Annapolis with similar results, but he hasn't gotten his acceptance yet. </p>

<p>You can do this! Just focus on the goal. And don't get sidetracked trying to up your hours of volunteer service or trying to get a goshawful high score on the CFA. For you, right now, SAT/ACT means almost everything.</p>

<p>We're pulling for you!</p>

<p>your SATs aren't awful. Your math score is good, just try to increase your CR and Writing by 20-30 pts and they'll be in the range. Good luck!</p>

<p>Not sure the writing is that important. Last year it was totally ignored. Anyone know if USAFA is looking at the writing score this year? On the SAT/ACT prepclasses -- the change can be amazing. Saw it with three of my own kids.</p>

<p>Your stats are very similar to my sons.He received his appt. last week.
I am pretty sure having the principal nomination from his congrssman helped.
As raimus said just try to raise your writing and I think you will be fine.</p>

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<p>Sorry I posted raimus' name. I meant ksenior07. Again good luck</p>

<p>A recent link on this forum to the web site that briefs ALO's in Pennsylvania said that 580CR and 560M were the cut-offs for being competitive on the SAT. That's about as authoritative as anything I've seen anywhere. Frankly, I was a little surprised that the Math cut-off was lower than the English. The median scores for the entering class are always higher in Math. This past year the median Math score was about 660.</p>

<p>well it just seems like im bad at SAT. Im quick on my feet, and have what it takes mentally (I think :P) but im almost ready for it. I am taking the SAT again.</p>

<p>P.S: In the military, why would someone with a high SAT score really matter over someone with a lower score. Sometimes the lower scorer can think more "down to earth." Im just rambling.</p>

<p>Numbers my friend. You will be a number in the military. The higher the numbers, the more competent you look. Not the best way, but it works. Typically if you have a higher SAT score you will handle academics and the rigors of all the testing here better. Of course, that's not always true. I know of someone here (she actually very much dislikes me :-D ) that got a 2400 or close to it on the SAT and she currently has a 2.9 GPA. So, it doesn't always tell, but its the best way they have for now.</p>

<p>Took the SAT's four times. Each time something got better, and something got worse. Thank God they combine the scores. Just keep trying and hang in there.</p>

<p>Try the ACT too. I did pretty bad on the PSAT this year, I was 84th percentile, but then I took the ACT and am 98th percentile. Sometimes it's just the format of the test. Good luck!</p>

<p>thank you all.</p>

<p>And hornetguy, people with high gpa's in high school tend to do better than people with high SAT's. Im smart on tests for school because I basically have a photographic memory. But for the SAT I am not good at reading because it is always the "best answer"</p>

<p>lol, chances, I am exactly the same way. I had a 2100 I think on the SAT, while not bad, its not fabulous. But my high school GPA was very high (which I believe is given more weight by the academy) and what you said is proven true since I had a 3.7 GPA last semester. ;) </p>

<p>I don't necessarily agree with my numbers argument, its just the system in place.</p>

<p>2100 is fantastic.</p>