<p>you can't get inside the head of a college admission person... so don't assume what you don't know. she probably had more things going for her than you did... and u don't even know...</p>
<p>chioma999: Come out of the box now. My D's school had 7 acceptances at Cal Tech and 14 at Stanford so I'm not sure what your point is.</p>
<p>madville -- "but all things taken equally, the student attending the school with a higher academic profile probably gets the nod." -- very true. and in many cases, these schools with high academic profiles may be well-known public schools (usually magnet or admission restricted). Just because a schools is private or independent doesn't make it better -- but being a KNOWN quantity does.</p>
<p>great... i bet their parents were rich too....... or they were financial need... don't get mad cause the public schools get all the full ride merit scholarships while the private schools just "get in".. and pay.</p>
<p>chioma999: You really need to come out of the box:
At my D's school most of the students who matriculate to the top Universities have generous financial aids (including full ride). </p>
<p>So your point is futile. Good schools produce good students that can get more full ride merit scholarship than other students.</p>
<p>chioma -- no one is trying to read minds. The statistics for years prove that school name does make a difference. </p>
<p>Are you trying to say that the top student at a totally unknown public school who has great grades, tons of AP scores of 4/5 and perfect SAT scores has the same chance as a student with the exact same stats at a well-known school when applying to an Ivy -- you are dreaming. My guess is that you attend an unknown school and you are hoping you have an equal chance -- you don't. Doesn't mean you can't get in -- just that you don't have that edge that a name school will give you.</p>
<p>don't forget that there are plenty of top public schools that are well known and send a good chunk of kids to top, top schools. money doesn't play as much a part in that since those are public schools. but you are correct -- money makes a difference. That is the way the world works.</p>
<p>there is no such thing as an unknown public school unless it's rural... every college practically knows everyschool because at least someone sometime or another has applied...</p>
<p>also collegeboard has student search services with schools and stuff 4 colleges. u statistics ppl need to get some proof, stop over generalizing the 1-20 stories u've heard.... o wait,.... there is no data to support your claim... so until u become an admissions person, don't try and act like one.</p>
<p>chioma999: It seems you really need a lesson here.</p>
<p>There are known public scshools like TJHSS, but there are tons of good public schools that top universities know about as they have seen over the years consistently good applications from these schools.</p>
<p>So a student from these known public schools will have a much greater chance of acceptance than a student with similar SAT1 and SATII score and GPA just because the rigor of the curriculumn at the unknown public school is not verified.</p>
<p>That is the reason that the median house sells for > $ 1Million in those good known public school communities and so in the end it is the money that matters.</p>
<p>You Are Not An Admission Counselor- Stop Being In Denial- You Know Nothing</p>
<p>chioma999: You are in denial, don't tell the whole world is foolish except you.</p>
<p>there are hundreds of public schools that have never sent a kid to an ivy -- and just because a school has sent someone to a school, doesn't mean that it is "known". It could just as well have a bad reputation that results in kids getting turned away.</p>
<p>When we are talking about known or named schools, we are referring to those schools who have a reputation for preparing students well for college. these schools include private and public schools and you can tell which ones they are by looking at the matriculation lists -- they will consistently send a chunk of kids to top schools including ivies.</p>
<p>take a look at your local school district (or several local school districts) and see what the matriculations are for the high schools. You will most likely find one or maybe two schools that send a higher percentage to top schools -- and a couple that never send kids to top schools. those that do send kids to the top schools are the "known" or "named" schools we are talking about. our local public here in town sends about 5 to ivies each year and about 10-15 other kids to top schools -- out of about 500 kids. So our local public is a known quantity in that schools recognize that the top 5 kids are most likely ivy caliber and the top 20 kids are the caliber that top schools are looking for. Very, very rarely has any kid who is not top 20 gotten an acceptance into a top school. Another schools may have a different result -- a top private may send their top 60 kids to top schools and another public school in your area may send only the top 2 students to a top school.</p>
<p>for a "parent" you're a little to immature parentofivyhope... keep hoping</p>
<p>I agree with the previous post. Our public high school is known as one of the best in the northeast and consistently sends dozens of kids to top schools. From what I have heard, you have a better chance getting into a great college from a public school than from a private one, all things being equal.</p>
<p>finally someone with some sense</p>
<p>from the president of Yale: "Independent schools, though few in number compared with their public counterparts, play an important role in shaping the landscape of American education. For more than a century, they have been at the forefront of pedagogical innovation and educational reform. And today they provide a vastly disproportionate flow of students to the most highly selective colleges and universities. Although they educate only 2% of the nation’s high school students, independent schools nonetheless provide between one–quarter and one–third of the matriculants at highly selective universities."</p>
<p>Some people want to engage in intelligent discussion/debate. Some just want to argue. It seems that chioma is of the latter.</p>
<p>To the OP, it can matter, and as the other posters have stated, adcoms take notice.</p>
<p>f.y.i. 1/4- 1/3 is way below majority</p>
<p>Quote: From what I have heard, you have a better chance getting into a great college from a public school than from a private one, all things being equal.</p>
<p>You can show me better than you can tell me.</p>
<p>Nice job hsmomstef, with information that reinforces your position (and mine too)</p>
<p>veryscary and chioma -- reread the posts. no one said that a private school would automatically trump a private. In fact -- just the opposite. but the reputation of any school, public or private, makes a huge difference.</p>
<p>top high schools send more kids to top schools -- and those top schools include private and public schools.</p>