Will Cornell ever let their wait listers know anything?

<p>I'm trying to find out information for all of the students on the Cornell wait list if, historically, Cornell actually informs anyone of anything. If you have been on the wait list in past years or have any information please tell.</p>

<p>From reading these threads, it seems last year an email went out to wait listers by this time. It also seems many schools use June 30th as their final cut-off date for wait listers. I can only assume that we will hear something, anything, from Cornell by the end of this month.</p>

<p>I called a few weeks ago just to see if there was a notification deadline and they said no. They told me that they can contact you at any point this summer and that June 30th means nothing.</p>

<p>With that said, I think if you haven’t heard by now thats probably it. I doubt they will take many kids off the waitlist as they are overenrolled. Plus there are over 3000 kids waitlisted and last year they took under 20 off. If you really want Cornell call and ask for a guaranteed sophomore transfer (they offer those for some reason)</p>

<p>Doesn’t make a difference to me, no matter what I’m going to Duke!!! :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :)</p>

<p>I thought as much. Like you, it doesn’t really matter. My S is going to BC but I just find it rather amazing that Cornell is the only Ivy that doesn’t give the students any info at all. If you know that you’re that overenrolled, then take 2/3rds of that 3000 and let them off the hook. Its just really poorly managed.</p>

<p>I think the thing is kids who got waitlisted at Cornell aren’t as nuts about the school as the kids who got waitlisted at Dartmouth or Brown or Harvard. I think most kids are thinking “eh Cornell” versus “O MY GOD I COULD GO TO COLUMBIA!!!” The desire for the school is not as high as the other Ivies so they don’t have to be as open, where as kids who weren’t informed about Yale would be sitting there, rocking themselves to sleep every night, saying “Humina Humina Humina Humina Humina Humina…” lol.</p>

<p>^ Ahhhh, I think I’m pretty nuts about the school. (Cornell is my number one. Yale/the others were actually the number two (s) )</p>

<p>So, in addition to saying you could be contacted at any time during the summer, they also said that they are right now over enrolled as a whole (or for specific colleges?), and that they are willing to offer Soph GT if you just ask for it?</p>

<p>@ collegehopefull</p>

<p>well good for you if Cornell is your #1 thats great that you still have interest and hope to go to your top school (I wish I still had that hope - Dartmouth reject over here). </p>

<p>Well I know that before they had offered the sophomore transfer, like a few months ago (friend of mine got one in April) but as for right now I don’t know, but I guess you could check. They do have it though, which is interesting for none of its peer schools offer that. As for the time, that is what they told me basicially, any time. There is no deadline for waitlists. And I don’t know for specific colleges, though I read somewhere Hotel was overenrolled (pretty sure it was Hotel not 100%).</p>

<p>I think Cornell needs to release its waitlist students at this point. My daughter REALLY wanted to go, got an A in the their Summer college last year and was led to believe she would be offered admission at that time. Oh well. She is going to University of FL which actually has more to offer, but she still waits and hopes. I’m over it. Time to move on!</p>

<p>So what happens…sometime in July they send out 3000 letters saying thanks but no thanks? It seems so odd that they didn’t thin out the herd earlier the way Columbia and Princeton did by releasing a large number and just holding on to extended wait listers. I know in our case, my S really needed to finally have something solid to be excited about. How horrible to spend your whole summer wondering and then get rejected anyway.</p>

<p>@ Andy:</p>

<p>Ahh, funnily enough, I too am a Dartmouth reject (tied with all the other schools I applied to - it’s reputation for placement for Econ/Math was a big pull, but it’s in the middle of…anyways, I was rejected)</p>

<p>I knew about GT, I just thought for a moment that they would actually do that.
Cornell has GT because its mission is to enroll as many of the ‘qualified’ students as it can, and transfers don’t need to take crowded freshman classes. (That’s why they even offer Spring enrollment)</p>

<p>@cdwm:
I know of people getting in from waitlists in July (though, not at Cornell), so, perhaps Cornell is mulling over their overenrollment prospects? 2012 is overenrolled by about 130 people (much to the chagrin of the Program Houses, esp Ujaama), and this year, when they accepted 39% of the class ED (as opposed to last year 36% ED), they said in the Sun that they were increasing the class size to 3150, from 3050.</p>

<p>So, if Harvard dips into its waitlist, and Princeton dips into its waitlist and Yale…lol, Yale will take like 4 people - urgh, and the others go to their lists, there might be just enough dissolution (if Cornell wants to slightly overenroll so they can really reap the benefits, as opposed to last year where it was unplanned), then there might be hope for a few of us getting in from the waitlist.
Maybe.</p>

<p>@COLMOM:
I think they don’t do that because their admissions patterns are a bit anomalous. They’ve always had more applicants than the other schools, but instead of getting worse quality applicants, they get a significant number of apps from people who assume the school is “easier to get into”, and so between Princeton or Columbia, Cornell loses in a cross admit game.</p>

<p>So, if Cornell dismissed a large number of its waitlist pool, and Princeton and Columbia filled just enough people, Cornell could be ‘under’ whatever it wants its enrollment to be!!!</p>

<p>All of this is because the schools operate to get the largest number of the best students to completely fill their bed capacity - which is a tricky game when students get into more than one place, because then they have to worry about yield.
(I know you know all of this)</p>

<p>So to hedge their bets, the schools have the waitlist - but for the reasons in my speculation above, Cornell might have to wait for the other schools to deactivate their lists before they go to theirs (or announce theirs), because if they have to fight for students from the waitlist, they’re likely fighting over the same students who are crosswaitlisted</p>

<p>I’m not sure whether the schools share any admissions info, or whether their enrollment objectives are so important that they would compete with each other into the waitlist, but I imagine that they are lying to us when they say the waitlist is unranked, and then tell us to demonstrate intent, so…</p>

<p>Also, I’ve just consumed a large amount of caffeine, so much of what I’ve written is jumpy speculation at best.</p>

<p>@ collegehopefull</p>

<p>jw where are you going if econ/math is your choice (I chose Duke b-c they are amazing at both)?</p>

<p>Actually, I think I’m going to change to math/polisci. If I had gone to Dartmouth, I would’ve done math and tried to take lots of econ (Apparently Goldman Sachs has this winter internship for them because of the trimester business)
I’ll PM you where I’m going.</p>

<p>Okay. My daughter called Cornell (A&S admissions) today and asked if she should send her final transcript. They told her no and that are not going to the waitlist. She was told she should be receiving a notice in the mail soon. She is upset, but ready to move on. I know I’m ready to move on! Luckily she is excited about going to UF. An excellent school which won’t bankrupt me!</p>

<p>Waitlist is still active for CALS. In fact they have not even started evaluating applicants according to the rep I talked to. And they still may offer GT. This applies to AEM as well. And they said we will probably hear back by July sometime (thats what they have done in the past).</p>

<p>Thanks to all of you industrious posters who have shared info gleaned from your phone calls and questions. I’ve said this before, and I totally agree with COLMOM – Cornell should have communicated before now with its waitlisters, if only to tell them their wait list is still in limbo,. You know when you call a business and you are put on hold, but every minute or so a recorded voice comes on the line to thank you for continuing to hold, and a rep will be with your shortly? That’s what Cornell should have done – an email thanking their waitlisters, but asking them for continued patience or something to that effect. The fact that no one seems to have heard, save those who phoned the school, is not exactly a ringing endorsement for efficiency.</p>

<p>It’s Cornell’s way of making sure only the most dedicated wait-listers remain… kind of like the whole Jewish “refuse three times” sort of thing. muhahahaha.</p>

<p>Well IMHO that sounds more like a plot line for a new survivor-based reality TV show, than for a wait-list policy worthy of an esteemed institution of higher education like Cornell…</p>

<p>Well, it will be interesting to see if anyone hears anything on July 1. If you do, please post. And Sunny, I agree, even if my S did get called, it has taken some of the blush off the rose for me regarding Cornell. Especially since I would have to pay full price. I’m happier sending that money to school that actually wanted him.</p>

<p>I agree with you 100%. My daughter is in the same position. She is going to University of Florida for their pre-dental program. She only needs to pay room and board. She is happy now and that’s all that matters!</p>

<p>Saw on another thread that someone got a letter saying there were no spots. This was for Hotel. So it begins, finally.</p>