Will Ferpa block at one UC campus prevent another UC school to get that info?

<p>Or are they all under the same "system" so that all the student info are "in-house"? Info such as grades, enrollment time, etc...</p>

<p>If a Ferpa block pretty useless in this situation? What I mean is, are the UC schools all considered a single "entity" as far as student info is concerned. Maybe transcript is not shareable, meaning, a registar officer at one school cannot just pull out the grades for a student at a different UC school...</p>

<p>I just want to know from a theoretical (not legal) standpoint, what info does the computer system at one UC school have about a student at another UC school, without regards to whether it's lawful for someone (authoritative or not) to see it.</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>I answered you on your other thread and was actually the one that brought up the FERPA block.</p>

<p>I called the National Student Clearinghouse to confirm this, but instead of typing it all out again, I’m going to quote grindallday’s post here:</p>

<p>"FERPA for Students</p>

<p>A school MAY disclose education records without consent when:</p>

<ul>
<li>The disclosure is to school officials who have been determined to have legitimate educational interests as set forth in the institution’s annual notification of rights to students;</li>
<li>The student is seeking or intending to enroll in another school;</li>
<li>The disclosure is to state or local educational authorities auditing or enforcing Federal or State supported education programs or enforcing Federal laws which relate to those programs;</li>
<li>The disclosure is to the parents of a student who is a dependent for income tax purposes;</li>
<li>The disclosure is in connection with determining eligibility, amounts, and terms for financial aid or enforcing the terms and conditions of financial aid;</li>
<li>The disclosure is pursuant to a lawfully issued court order or subpoena; or</li>
<li>The information disclosed has been appropriately designated as directory information by the school.</li>
</ul>

<p>Generally, schools must have written permission from the parent or eligible student in order to release any information from a student’s education record. However, FERPA allows schools to disclose those records, without consent, to the following parties or under the following conditions (34 CFR § 99.31):</p>

<ul>
<li>School officials with legitimate educational interest;</li>
<li>Other schools to which a student is transferring;</li>
<li>Specified officials for audit or evaluation purposes;</li>
<li>Appropriate parties in connection with financial aid to a student;</li>
<li>Organizations conducting certain studies for or on behalf of the school;</li>
<li>Accrediting organizations;</li>
<li>To comply with a judicial order or lawfully issued subpoena;</li>
<li>Appropriate officials in cases of health and safety emergencies; and</li>
<li>State and local authorities, within a juvenile justice system, pursuant to specific State law."</li>
</ul>

<p>So yes, they can see your grades and enrollment periods anyway, and I confirmed it by calling them. “If the transferring institution requests information from a school you previously attended, they are forced to comply.” Also, when I called, they said that a school would be able to see that I was enrolled at a certain college (though they may not have explicit access of my grades right away), and it would raise suspicion as to why I was not disclosing it, as it is academic dishonesty.</p>

<p>User “Ontheflipside” also contacted National Student Clearinghouse and was given this information:</p>

<p>“What she told me was, if the name and DOB are entered into the database, the FERPA restricted directory information will not show up in the system. However, if the Social Security number is entered, all directory information comes up, even if it is FERPA restricted. The reason why FERPA lists exceptions to the restriction, such as schools a student is transferring to and loan officers, is because these people can see all directory info, restricted or not, with a SSN, and are authorized to use the SSN when permitted. I asked why the SSN would be used and she gave me examples of past attendance and financial aid eligibility.”</p>

<p>Not saying there isn’t a chance you can slide by, but there’s also a chance of getting caught. Your choice, but I suggest you do alot of research before you do decide whether to do it or not. Like I posted before, I failed out of CC and disclosed everything and still got accepted to UCB and UCLA, so don’t think your chances are slim.</p>

<p>As soon as a UC sees you are using a FERPA block they will assume you are engaging in academic dishonesty by trying to hide information. They will automatically reject you and ban you from every applying again. Using a FERPA block only guarantees that you will never be a student at a UC.</p>

<p>It appears that UC, CSU and CCC have a common data base of all students who have ever been enrolled in any California public college or university and just knowing you were enrolled at a school you did not report on your application is an automatic rejection.</p>