<p>I'm doing much better on the ACT than the SAT and I'm honestly thinking of just submitting that and forgetting my SATs. I got a 30 my first time (no practice) and hoping to bring it to a 33+.</p>
<p>Now, I live in NJ, where the ACT is not too popular. Now, will Ivy/subIvy schools look and wonder why I'm from NJ and only submitting an ACT score? Will they assume my SATs were too bad to submit?</p>
<p>What will they think?</p>
<p>Depending upon what school you are applying to you will also have to submit SAT IIs also so the colleges will still "see" your SAT scores. They will just evaluate you on the information submitted.</p>
<p>Most colleges will accept ACT over SATs and SATIIs though.</p>
<p>Just got my subject test scores....Yikes, they're pretty bad.</p>
<p>Math Level 2 - 680
Physics - 660</p>
<p>Every time I think about it more, I feel I'm so much better at the ACT and to just submit that......</p>
<p>We are in SAT country too (although not as strong as New Jersey!) and my daughter just submitted her ACT score. (Her SAT II's were lackluster -- don't feel bad; I think it is a function of how well the curriculum happens to match up with what the CB happens to want.)</p>
<p>She got into three selective schools doing this -- Brown, Chicago, and UNC (out of state). I've heard of other kids in SAT land who have submitted just the ACT and gotten into Ivies. </p>
<p>So I don't think it looks bad, and it certainly looks better than any less-than-stellar SAT II scores (I am not characterizing your scores that way -- dd's scores were lower than yours!).</p>
<p>S got into Dartmouth on ACT (32) and SAT IIs only. SATs are definitely the test of choice at his prep school; he was only one in his class who didn't take SAT. We live in Texas tho, not NJ.</p>
<p>I think any school will accept the ACT now, but many will ALSO want SAT IIs and maybe AP scores?</p>
<p>S submitted ACT only to Boston University two years ago and was accepted. BU may have changed its policy and require some SATIIs now as well. I'm not sure.</p>
<p>Bump 10char</p>
<p>what might hurt you is your apparent determination that "I" is a plural noun and requires "are" as its linking verb. As in, "I... are from NJ"</p>
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what might hurt you is your apparent determination that "I" is a plural noun and requires "are" as its linking verb. As in, "I... are from NJ"
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<p>Well excuse me. I didn't know the Grammar Police viewed this boards. </p>
<p>P.S. WHO CARES? IT IS A MESSAGE BOARD.</p>
<p>As long as you're not applying to schools that are kind of sketchy about the ACT (Princeton, Harvey Mudd, a couple others I think) then I think you'll be okay</p>
<p>Schools I'm thinking of applying to: Brown, Cornell (I would have to sumbit ACTs), Lehigh, Bucknell, Colgate, Swarthmore, Wesleyan, and a couiple others...</p>
<p>You tell me if they are sketchy...</p>
<p>Here are the numbers from CB, basically the first percentage is the percent of students who submitted the ACT vs. those who submitted the SAT's </p>
<p>Brown 21% (vs. 96%)
Cornell 18% (vs. 98%)
Lehigh 2% (vs. 98%)
Bucknell 19% (vs. 97%)
Colgate 14% (vs. 86%)
Swarthmore 15% (vs. 99%)
Wesleyan 18% (vs. 94%)</p>
<p>Harvey Mudd is the only name school I know of now that doesn't want the ACT.</p>
<p>Princeton is now telling people that they will accept either test equally. Wake Forest has said it will start accepting the ACT next year.</p>
<p>These are the only three name schools I've heard mentioned when this subject comes up (and it does, time and again).</p>
<p>The number of people who submit ACT versus SAT scores I think is irrelevant. Many people are sheep. They take what others in their geographic region take and never consider anything else. Or they go with the traditional wisdom that certain schools "prefer" a particular test, even if the schools tell people time and again that this isn't true anymore. I see no reason not to take the schools at their word -- they COULD have a preference if they wanted, yet practically all have deliberately moved away from having one.</p>
<p>Something from 2000 on this subject -- </p>
<p>Obviously the "majority of schools take either test" point is even stronger in 2006. It is now more like "virtually all," at least among name schools. (There may be lower tier places that take only the ACT or SAT -- I haven't surveyed the thousands of colleges in the country! I just report the examples SAT advocates have been able to find in recent years.)</p>
<p>I once talked to an admission's director at an east coast school that gets mostly SAT scores. I asked about the preference idea generally. He said at his school ACT scores are converted to SAT scores and the committee doesn't even see that the ACT was taken, unless they have some reason to dig into the application. He further told me that he had never heard a "secret" preference for the SAT among his counterparts at other schools and that they just convert the ACT scores if they aren't familiar with it (the same way midwest schools convert SAT scores to their ACT equivalent).</p>
<p>Still looking for some other opinions...</p>
<p>Not to hijack the thread or anything, but it is okay to submit SAT AND ACT scores on your app, right? And colleges will look at consider both?</p>
<p>Since your objective is or should be to show your "best self", you should submit the scores that best help to accomplish this. </p>
<p>If you have done better on your ACT, then you should send those in for consideration since they can be converted to a SAT score and vice versa. If your school ask for 2 SATIIs, they will still see your SATI cores but will not consider them if you request to use your ACT score.</p>
<p>haha I noticed the title of the thread but didn't want to say anything...everybody makes mistakes when typing fast.</p>
<p>Your SAT II scores are quite low. I would suggest a retake. Math IIC is particularly bad because it is, I believe, the average test score, meaning 50th percentile. An 800 is 88th percentile, so a lot of people get perfects. Definitely retake to improve chances. Good luck.</p>