<p>My D is not strongest in math, and I am wondering if she has to take the hard classes like calculus in order to be accepted at a top liberal arts school as a transfer.
What are logic and finite math, anyway? I, as her parent, am clueless.</p>
<p>generally if it is above a 100 class itll transfer. If it is a 097 class it wont. As long as your daughter has nothing to do with ANY sort of sciences such as premed, chemistry, biochemistry she should be fine. Almost all colleges require one semester of calculus before transferring to any science majors. Generally business schools do too.</p>
<p>usually not...stats, buisness math are the lowest ones that will transfer.
Some schools take adv algebra.</p>
<p>Okay...thanks. Can someone tell me what logic is (in terms of a math class, and "finite" mathematics? Maybe some schools call them different things?</p>
<p>So it has to be a 200 class or above?</p>
<p>I appreciate your help.</p>
<p>Logic deals a lot with symbols and relationships - in other words, it's pretty similar to math. </p>
<p>Your daughter might consider Statistics, which is generally considered a college class and transfers.</p>
<p>No. It does <em>not</em> need to be 200 or above (based on the way most schools number classes, with 100-levels being intro classes). She can certainly expect most of her 100 level courses to transfer - English 101, Physics 101 etc.).</p>
<p>I think what burgler was referring to was classes that are "readiness" or remedial classes, preparing the student for college-level work in the field. That is what matters, rather than the course number. For example, here is a listing from a State U course catalog that happens to be a 300-level course, but states clearly that it is not to be taken for credit toward the degree. That is what you would need to look out for:
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MATH 301 - Elementary Math I
Credits: 4.00
Beginning algebra including integer operations, solving linear equations, graphing linear functions, solving linear inequalities, systems of linear equations, polynomials, rational expressions and equations, and exponents and radicals. May not be taken for credit toward a bachelor's degree.
[/quote]
Be aware that the <em>actual</em> decision as to what credits will transfer will happen after acceptance. Your D will submit her transcripts and may be required to provide the course descriptions from the catalog. At that point, the school will "articulate" her courses, matching them up to the equivalent at the new school, and grant appropriate credit.</p>
<p>Some schools will not give credit for P/F courses taken at a different school - even if they would give credit for same at their school. Some will give credit iff the student can provide written verification that the letter grade would have been at least, say, a C. So she may want to consider that if she has the option of taking a P/F course. Although it is not the end of the world if a credit or 2 or 3 doesn't transfer.</p>
<p>Can you post the course description for the course? Logic can be a fun and interesting course. Relates to math and philosophy, decision theory, and understanding whether conclusions follow logically from premises.</p>
<p>Finite math, IDK.</p>
<p>BTW, one way to get a pretty good idea of whether a course will transfer is to see if the target school(s) have a similar course. If they do, highly likely. If they don't, well... it doesn't mean it <em>won't</em> transfer, but it raises the issue.</p>
<p>Logic is amazing. If she has a good teacher, it could very well be one of those classes that changes the way you think.</p>
<p>^^ What I was trying to say. But brand said it better. ;)</p>
<p>And it teaches you to use "words" like "iff." :)</p>
<p>If she is not headed toward the hard sciences or Engineering (which I doubt based on your description), I don't see why she should go for Calculus. Best thing to do is check the recommended curriculum for her possible major(s) at her target schools. And their distribution requirements. Even if they require Calculus (which I'm doubting), she could save it for later if she's not going to need it as a prereq for other classes she wants. Often they require a certain number of quantitative-type courses, where statistics or other math or maybe even econ courses could work.</p>
<p>That was incredibly helpful and answered a lot of questions, thanks so much! last one: Does it make sense to submit the course descriptions to the transfer counselor at the prospective transfer school in advance of her freshman year to see if they would transfer? She is not as concerned about the transfer of credits as she is about being accepted based on having taken the "right" courses her freshman year. Again, thanks.</p>
<p>Not sure if she should submit her planned courseload to a transfer counselor or not. I will PM you.</p>
<p>In general, the key is to take a rigorous courseload (not too heavy on the basektweaving ;), and to come as close as she can to taking what is recommended for those planning her major (if she knows it) at the school she hopes to attend.</p>
<p>For some majors and schools, there is quite specific guidance on the transfer admissions website as to what courses she should take and what minimum GPA is for transfer.</p>
<p>finite math definately transfers to all state schools (the UCs, UVa, etc). Some privates wont accept it. If she takes calculus or stats, those courses transfer to all schools.</p>
<p>In my opinion, she should just tough it out in Calc for one semester and then be done with math. It will look better than logic or finite math-even if it's not required for her major.</p>