Will the Blue & Gold or Calgrant pay off-campus housing at UCLA?

<p>So I don't know very well how the Blue and Gold and Cal grant work, the website says Im eligible for blue and gold but it's not included in my financial aid list (I think because I was granted calgrant).</p>

<p>On fafsa i stated i was going to live on campus but I want to change that,
what will happen when I do that? Will they give me the calgrant directly to pay for off campus housing, or what exactly is calgrant for? Can't I use it for that?</p>

<p>Because if its a grant, like pell grant, can't I use that for housing, and then will the Blue and Gold pay the tuition expenses (because that's what its for)? </p>

<p>Also I read in the website that the Blue and Gold may be able to even cover housing fees for students in extreme need, how can I get a hold of that? Cause my parents can't pay a cent :/</p>

<p>I’d also be interested in this, since the transfer housing is technically “off-campus” for Berkeley. I’m not sure if that means that I’m on my own for housing payment, or maybe I will have to live in one of the other residence halls with a bunch of freshmen.</p>

<p>Wont see Blue and Gold on your financial aid offer because it’s not specifically a separate grant given to you. As long as all of the other “normal” grants you’re given are enough to cover the year’s tuition and possibly the other misc. school fees (not including housing), your Blue and Gold entitlement has been met.</p>

<p>Financial aid is dispersed in 3 almost equal payments around the beginning of each quarter. If you have enough grants and loans to cover all school fees and still have money left over, they’ll deposit the rest of the money in your bank account if you sign up for Bruin direct or they’ll mail you a check.</p>

<p>I’m sure blue and gold plan is only to help pay off tuition, off-campus housing is pretty much your own problem such as paying rent or buying food but it can be met by taking another loan.</p>

<p>If your Grants/Scholarships are already over 11k then you will not see any $ from B&G.</p>

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Every university estimates how much it costs for an average student to attend a particular campus. This is called the Cost of Attendance (COA). It is based on some things that are certain (e.g. tuition, fees, campus health plan) and some things that are uncertain (e.g. books, supplies, transportation), so if you’re smart with your money, your actual costs can be less than the estimated costs represented by the COA.</p>

<p>There are three main categories used for calculating COA, depending on the housing plans you indicated on the FAFSA. [url=<a href=“http://www.fao.ucla.edu/publications/2011-2012/Estimated_budgets.pdf]Here”>http://www.fao.ucla.edu/publications/2011-2012/Estimated_budgets.pdf]Here</a> is the COA breakdown for all three categories at UCLA (pdf).<a href=“The%20%22Commuter%22%20category%20is%20for%20people%20who%20indicated%20their%20housing%20plans%20as%20%22with%20parents%22%20on%20the%20FAFSA.”>/url</a> Take a careful look at the first two categories to see what is different and what is the same. Your enrollment fees, books and supplies, campus health insurance and (potential) loan fees are not affected by where you live, so the costs for those are the same under all three plans. However, students living off-campus are expected to have lower housing costs, higher transportation costs, and more miscellaneous personal expenses. The bottom line is that the COA at UCLA is $2,859 less for off-campus undergrads than for undergrads in the dorms.</p>

<p>How this affects you personally will depend on your particular financial aid package. As a general rule, when receiving federal aid the total of all forms of aid you receive cannot exceed your COA. That includes grants, scholarships, subsidized loans, and federal work-study. There is also often a certain amount of money that will not be covered by need-based aid, either from your Expected Family Contribution on the FAFSA, or from a Student Self-Help Expectation determined by the university. On your financial aid award summary, you should see an indication of something called “remaining need” or “unmet need” or similar. If this amount is $0, then you have maxed out your need-based aid, and that means that when your COA goes down by $2,859, that same amount will have to be removed from some part of your aid package. And it’s not going to be removed from your subsidized loan offer—it’s probably going to come out of a scholarship or grant.</p>

<p>This is because you are expected to have lower costs. If you have lower costs, you can get by with less aid. However, in most cases, if the dorms would be covered by need-based aid, an apartment off-campus would be covered as well. For instance, let’s say your fees are $10,000 and you’re staying in the dorms which is another $10,000. If you have $25,000 of scholarship money, the first thing that happens when school starts is that the school takes what you owe them for the fees and dorms. $25,000 - $20,000 = $5,000 left over, which the school will give you directly in whatever form the office uses (check, direct deposit, prepaid VISA, whatever). Next year, you decide to move off-campus. Now, the school doesn’t know where you’re living off campus and they don’t know how much it costs, but they estimate it should cost you about $8,000. This is $2,000 cheaper than the dorms, so your COA goes down $2,000, reducing your scholarship from $25,000 to $23,000. When the semester starts, the school takes out its $10,000 fee from your scholarship, but since you’re not living on-campus, they don’t take out any money for the dorms. That leaves $13,000 which the school will give you directly so that you can pay for your off-campus housing, based on their estimated cost of $8,000, plus the same $5,000 you got the semester before (for things like books and transportation).</p>

<p>There are some situations where you can live off-campus but in apartments which are directly affiliated with the university, and in those situations it’s possible the university will take out your housing costs anyway to pay the apartments. But usually if you have a monthly rent, it’s your responsibility to pay, and the university won’t do it for you. Keep in mind that the numbers I used in my example are all fake, and in the real world you don’t get your entire scholarship for the year all at once; it gets divided between quarters or semesters.</p>

<p>The bottom line is that if you choose to live off-campus while attending UCLA, your financial aid will probably reduced by $2,859. However, if you live cheaply and spend less money than UCLA’s estimate, you can actually wind up with more spending money when you live off-campus. This is because UCLA knows exactly what their dorms cost, and so they give you exactly that amount of aid. But since they can only make an estimate about what your apartment will cost, they give you that estimated amount, and if your apartment is cheaper than they expect, you get to use the extra money however you like. (The risk is that if you’re not good with your money, or you get an apartment that’s too expensive and spend more than the estimate, they won’t give you any more aid to cover it; you’ll have to take a loan.)</p>

<p>^^^ Greatest answer ever. Thank you!!</p>

<p>If I go to a UC away from home, making on-campus housing necessary for freshman year and won’t get financial support from my parents, will I be able to cover housing with the B&G plan? My family income is about $26,000/yr, by the way.</p>

<p>There is no way to say absolutely yes or no, but if you are willing to consider student loans, you should be able to cover all your expenses.</p>

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<p>highly doubt it. My EFC is zero and i still had to take out loans to get housing. It’s not that big of a deal if you really think about it. After 4 years, if you take out like 7k in loans per year, you’ll just be in debt for like 30k. it’s basically like paying for a car. You could always apply for scholarships to try to pay for housing. I, personally, have been too lazy to do so lol, but might attempt to do so sometime during the summer.</p>

<p>According to the listed requirements, I do qualify for B&G plan. If I am eligible, I can’t have loans. Why is this so complicated?!?!
I prefer not to get financial help from my parents because it seems like they’re against me going away for college. I don’t know my EFC (how do you get this #? I tried online but didn’t have enough info to fill it out) and I only plan to live on-campus during the first year to settle in while looking for a job to pay for the rest of my college career. I applied for a couple of scholarships and it looks the it’s really difficult to get $ out of them. Do you think I can still pull this off with my situation?</p>

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Where did you get that idea?</p>

<p>There is no set amount of aid you get by qualifying for B&G. All that matters to you as a student is the actual aid package you are offered when you apply and are offered admission. Put B&G out of your mind completely. You need to [fill</a> out the FAFSA](<a href=“http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/]fill”>http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/), which will tell you your EFC. I’m guessing you would be starting college in Fall 2012, which means you can’t start the FAFSA for your school year until January 1, 2012.</p>

<p>It sounds to me like you need to assume you will be taking out some loans in your first year of college at the very least.</p>

<p>I did apply for FAFSA, already but could not find EFC on my account because every time I log in, they ask me if I want to fill out another form for next year. I qualify for financial aid with 1 school (accepted with SIR sent) but I’m still waiting for a UC because I was waitlisted. B&G required not be in default on student loans, so I guess you can still pull out loans but not have any, originally.</p>

<p>I’m not fully understanding what you’re saying here syltutu. The furthest FAFSA will let you fill out a form should be for the upcoming year - so if you’re seeing a form “for next year” that you haven’t filled out yet, that’s probably the one you need to fill out (2011-2012). Also B&G has nothing to do with loans. You can qualify for B&G and also qualify for loans (which ones depend on your EFC). You can also have previous loans and still qualify for new loans as well. When you say “in default” that means that you should not be in bad standing with any of your loans (which shouldn’t be the case with anyone who is continuing school seeing as payments should be deferred until 6 months after graduation anyway).</p>

<p>Oh, ok. Well, I’m 100% sure about financial aid and CalGrant because I have gotten response from them saying that I am eligible. Where can I go to find out my EFC (I tried fafsa.gov.edu but could not find it)?</p>

<p>They send you your EFC number after they process your fafsa.</p>

<p>I looked and my EFC is 0. Is anyone willing to share how they’re dealing with school, loans, work, being away from home? I really want to know if I will be able pull this off without going crazy and still get the worthwhile college experience.</p>