<p>how does Williams compare to the ivies and other schools? someone in another thread put it in "tier 3"? i thought it would be better than that...after talking to some students, the recruiting seemed pretty good with lotsa on campus stuff...</p>
<p>In my and friends' analyst classes, Williams was certainly among the top 12 or so schools.</p>
<p>At an info session, the lady from the career services office said that "18 of the top 20 banks actively recruit William students."</p>
<p>how about non-haas berkeley?</p>
<p>gellino, when you say it's among the "top 12 or so schools" are you taking into account Williams' class size (a bit over 500)?</p>
<p>^Not really. By class size, some form of Williams, Amherst, Dartmouth, Princeton, Harvard, Penn (Wharton) would have been top 6.</p>
<p>In my and friends IB analyst classes, most represented schools in an approximate order were:
Penn (Wharton)
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Dartmouth
Yale
Columbia
Georgetown
Stanford
UVA
Brown
Williams
Amherst
Howard
Spelman
Cornell
BC
Middlebury
Colgate
Hamilton
Cal/Berkeley
UMichigan
NYU
UCLA
UTexas
Notre Dame</p>
<p>People on here report many from MIT, but I never saw it in my time; maybe this has changed in more recent years.</p>
<p>No one from Vandy?</p>
<p>im sure we can argue over the order of the list forever but im not gonna go there</p>
<p>i love how northwestern (and uchicago) is completely ignored from that list, but im not surprised becasue its not uncommon to forget that Northwestern is actually a solid target school, slightly above Georgetown/UVA type schools. MIT is without a question up there as well, up with the top ivies.</p>
<p>as for the OP's question, yes Williams is great for banking. its easy to stand out at a tiny school like that, and bankers love "prestigious" institutions (its all about the name game) so the fact that Williams is #1 for liberal arts is appealing. </p>
<p>FYI, im currently a rising junior in college so im not quite in the industry. anything i said above is learned from other ibanking forums, talks with at least 15+ analysts in IB, and friends who are rising seniors doing a summer analyst stint right now. feel free to correct me if im wrong on anything</p>
<p>blazin hazin</p>
<p>The top five usually look about the same in most IB classes: Harvard, Wharton, Princeton, Dartmouth, and Duke. gellino said "By class size, some form of Williams, Amherst, Dartmouth, Princeton, Harvard, Penn (Wharton) would have been top 6." This is almost always true as well.</p>
<p>Northwestern and UChicago are usually in the top 15 as well.</p>
<p>MIT may do better than the bottom two ivies for ib, but it just doesn't do as well as the "top ivies" (assuming they are Harvard, Penn (Wharton), Princeton, and Dartmouth) simply because MIT students have other career pursuits.</p>
<p>Yeah, I forgot Northwestern, although there was only one person in my class from there, but it probably is as widely represented as the Cornell, BC, Middlebury, Colgate, Hamilton range of schools. UChicago certainly is a strong school as well, but there was no one from my or friends' IB classes from there. I don't doubt that it is represented at a similar level to Northwestern overall, although get the impression that people who are drawn to UChicago have with somewhat higher probability the tendency of being drawn into more theoretical academic pursuits and, on average, don't quite have the personality of the typical investment banker as much. </p>
<p>I do agree with IPBear that MIT is a great school, but that people drawn there tend not to be attracted to IB nearly as much as others from comparable schools.</p>
<p>Why is NYU so low in your list? Is this only Stern or are you counting the CAS kids too?</p>
<p>Williams is a great school for banking. I've met a few Williams alums in my firm.</p>
<p>^Only one in my analyst class from NYU, who was from Stern. I think the years below had a couple more - all from Stern. Maybe, this has changed in more recent years, although have to say that I haven't come across too many NYU UG alums in my positions; moreso on the MBA side. Also, I inadvertantly left out Bowdoin, which is also in that approximate 15-20 range along the lines of similar LACs Middlebury, Colgate, Hamilton.</p>
<p>i never thought schools like Amherst, BC, Spellman, Howard etc were better recruited than Stern. Was this the case only at your bank, or do other banks not recruit much at NYU too?</p>
<p>Stern MBA is well represented at my bank, a BB.</p>
<p>doesn't stern MBA have a better reputation than stern ugrad?</p>
<p>thanks for all the replies</p>
<p>so Williams is a pretty good place for banking but isn't on par with harvard wharton etc...?</p>
<p>The only schools on par with Harvard and Wharton are Harvard and Wharton -- maybe throw in Yale and P'ton too.</p>
<p>The point is that if you want to get into banking and really like Williams, go to Williams, because you'll get into banking.</p>
<p>"The only schools on par with Harvard and Wharton are Harvard and Wharton -- maybe throw in Yale and P'ton too."</p>
<p>Harvard, Wharton, and Princeton have their own tier. No Yale. Yale is in the next tier with Dartmouth, Duke, Stanford, etc.</p>
<p>I have certainly come across more Amherst grads than NYU UG in my positions. I think NYU MBA is considered a fair amount stronger than NYU UG.</p>
<p>I really think you're doing a dis-service to a hs student making them think they will have a better chance getting a job in IB by going to Princeton over Yale. While there probably are somewhat more IB analysts from Princeton than Yale in say the top ten banks, it really has more to do with the type of person drawn to Princeton. At that level of student, in the interviews, it's going to come down to the candidate, not the school. I would say, if anything, the same candidate out of Yale may have a better chance because they will be a little more unique and have less competition from their own classmates. Morgan Stanley doesn't necessarily want 20+ analysts in the class coming out of any one school.</p>
<p>^ Good post.</p>