<p>Neat school, generous with merit scholarships and reasonably-priced in the first place. Listed as a “Colleges That Change Lives” solid rep for grad and professional school admissions. Progressive place, too (if that’s what you’re looking for, I assume, outside of Georgia). Their scholarships do require interviews but they are pretty accomodating about setting that up with a local alum or visiting admissions person, if you are unable to travel there. It is supposed to be a highly academic school, although the admissions are not necessarily as competitive as other liberal arts schools where you might not be admitted and where you would not be likely to get merit $$ support. I have found, once you are leaving your home state, there are some PRIVATE schools that (after merit awards) can be a much better value than paying out-of-state tuition at a big state school, where you are going to have the same huge class sizes you could have had at home for a lot less money.</p>
<p>Some state schools, for the right GPA & test scores will give substantial tuition discounts to out-of-state students: Indiana, Purdue, Mich St, Nebraska, to name a few. Usually this info is available on their website under admissions & fin aid</p>
<p>Okay…everyone off track here. He wants to leave Georgia. Fine. If his parents will pay for it, let him.</p>
<p>UMinnesota is a good school. Its cold up there in the winter and different culture than Georgia. Its a big state school. Do you want that? </p>
<p>There are hundreds of smaller PRIVATE colleges in the midwest and east that fit your profile. You mentioned John Carroll, a Jesuit college. Lets start there.</p>
<p>Your profile is FINE for most Jesuit colleges EXCEPT BC and Georgetown. You are on the bubble for Holy Cross. Fordham is a high match, low reach. But there are 28 Jesuit colleges. (are you Catholic?). </p>
<p>Look SERIOUSLY at Marquette, Saint Louis University (one of my favorites!), Creighton, Fordham, Canisius, John Carroll, Loyola-Chicago, Loyola-New Orleans (a really, really fine school adjacent to Tulane that is often overlooked), Loyola-Maryland. Saint Louis University has great scholarships and rolling admissions. Apply NOW and see what they say and what they offer you. I know John Carroll and someone who went there. Its a fine school. But I would pick SLU and Creighton, Marquette before them. </p>
<p>Fordham is on the cusp of reaching Holy Cross and BC in prestige. You are on the lower end of their middle range, but its a great school and it would never hurt to apply there. Its a tough school in New York so you have to decide if that is a good fit for you or not. </p>
<p>I would really focus on Loyola Chicago, Marquette, Creighton, John Carroll and Saint Louis University. They will give you money.</p>
<p>As for your grad school question - grad schools, in general, don’t care whether you came from Harvard or Podunk U. Your grades, the quality of your research, letters of recommendation, and GRE scores as well as your personal statement are what’s important in graduate admissions.</p>
<p>Now that’s not to say that all other things being equal, a Harvard student won’t have a slight edge over a Podunk student. Even academics know that top schools are top schools for a reason. What I’m saying is that if you go to UMN-Morris or any of these small Jesuit institutions and really shine - get involved in research early, write a great personal statement, etc., then you’ll get into graduate school regardless of where you go.</p>
<p>But medical school is different than graduate school. Medical school, it matters even LESS where you went to undergrad. What matters is your GPA and your MCAT scores, above all else.</p>
<p>Miami U of OH is not particularly affordable for OOS without high stats. You’re not in the running for their full ride.</p>
<p>BU and NYU are both known for BAD financial aid unless they really WANT you–which is unlikely with your scores. If you get in, you’ll be on the bubble and likely to receive zero merit aid / need-based gapping with high loans. I would not bother applying to either school unless you really love them and are aware that they probably will not work out financially.</p>
<p>UMinn has relatively affordable OOS tuition. UM-Morris is one of my favorite public LACs, and also cheaper (in-state tuition for everyone); it is, however, geographically isolated and ethnically not very diverse.</p>
<p>You need to use a FA calculator and find out if your family can afford a school with excellent NEED-based aid. The calculator will spit out an EFC (Expected Family Contribution); can your family afford to pay that much money? This is IN ADDITION to student loans, remember.</p>
<p>If you don’t qualify for affordable need-based aid, you’ll have to look for merit aid, and you’ll need to tell us EXACTLY how much your family can afford to pay.</p>
<p>RE: Boston University - it isn’t a state school, its a private school. Tuition and room and board run around 50k per year. There are scholarships and loans available. With your stats, you would be a perfect candidate for the College of General Studies - and possibly some of the other programs. You should check into the financial aid available to you and then see what you can do.</p>
<p>My parents say that they are willing to pay for the accommodations and room and board but they will not pay for a college which charges over 25k for tuition.</p>
<p>SUNY Stoney Brook sounds like a good shot. </p>
<p>However, there is the more basic problem you didn’t ask about but somebody needs to draw this to your attention – med school is not for regular folks, smart folks, really smart folks… it is for near geniuses. That means SAT 2200 or higher testers. The medical school version of the SAT is the MCAT. If you’re talking about an SAT of 1900 or 2000, then honestly, save yourself the frustration and reconsider your medical school aspirations… or figure out how to ace the MCAT starting now! If you do poorly on the MCAT, no US based school will be able to take you. Maybe a med school outside the US.</p>
<p>Okay no, my doctor did not make a good SAT score either and he went to UNC for his MD and he did well, it takes some people a longer time to get focused and excel in their fields. What you said about the SATs is complete BS, you don’t even need an 1800, some people just tend to find their strides in college. BS advice.</p>
<p>Seriously, that is probably the worst advice I have heard.</p>
<p>What about U Delaware or U Maryland? Also yeah SUNY’s are dirt cheap OOS. Binghamton might be a reach and Albany is pretty bad, but Buffalo or Stony Brook may be good. </p>
<p>Other suggestions: lower level publics in Virginia like James Madison or George Mason, Rutgers, UConn, UMass</p>
<p>thanks randum persun, anyways, here is the list my parents and I came up with. I am applying to 8 colleges and so far my list is</p>
<p>In state:
Mercer (many kids from my school get a full ride there)
Augusta State (friend lives in the town where that University is, he says they have a good study abroad program)
and Armstrong Atlantic (I heard Savannah is a fun place)</p>
<p>Out of state:</p>
<p>UNC - Chapel Hill
University of Vermont</p>
<p>I need to add 3 more colleges to that list.</p>
<p>Also here are 4 universities which I am still thinking about putting on my list:</p>
<p>Vanderbilt
University of Delaware
Cornell (BIG REACH, I need one of those on my list)
and University of Wisconsin at Madison</p>
<p>why not try Clemson University? It’s close enough to home but out of the state of Georgia. OOS is also a lot cheaper than the University of Vermont.</p>
<p>Clemson?
EEEWWW no please. I visited their campus and I hated it. I am trying to avoid South Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana and Kentucky.</p>