wondering for Wharton (Huntsman)

<p>Wondering if I have any chances... and if not, what I will need to have some chances.</p>

<p>Age :17
Gender: male
Race: Chinese/Canadian(white)
Country:Canada
SAT& SATII: Taking in Nov and Dec (Good Chance I'll score 2200+)
GPA: don't have it where I am, no clue. I think my marks will be around 90% (hopefully higher)
LD: ADHD
Financial Aid: don't think so
Class Rank: no idea for now</p>

<p>Anyways, I have for most of my schooling life been extremely unmotivated(except for Math). My grades were terrible in high school until this senior year I'm stepping it up. I matured and now really want to actually pursue university and specifically this huntsman program would fit me amazingly. I can't find any other programs anywhere in the world like it. I have a huge interest in languages and international stuff+business in general. Both my parents are entrepreneurs who came from poor families so it's in my blood. For languages, I'm Intermediate to advanced in both Mandarin and Spanish . I've traveled to many countries to use these languages. I'm really worried though because I think I procrastinated way too late and I have no chance for Huntsman or even just Wharton. I don't have many EC's either.... I spent a lot of the past few years spending all my spare time specializing in chess. I was hoping this part would make me unique since I'm pretty darn good at it. I would have a very good chance at bringing home a few national titles. Although I'm virtually stopping chess this year just to try to make up for the bad years. I got offered full rides for chess at a few other US universities but they aren't top tier business schools. In fact, the main reason I play chess now is because I get to travel the world and experience a lot of cultures. </p>

<p>EC:
Owned and ran eBay card selling business for 2 years
Worked at Law firm for couple months
Helped manage catering business summer months
Chess (world youth vice champion... 3 time Canadian champion, 10+ provincial (state) championships, Professional ranking+ level etc.. )
2 months in China immersion program for mandarin</p>

<p>Any comments are welcomed.... especially negative since I was so stupid when I was younger...</p>

<p>well…you’re definitely unique…spend some serious quality time focusing on why you love math +Chess and Huntsman, would be best if you could link your dedication to chess to business in some way. I don’t play much so can’t help you there. That said, look up some other good business schools for backup</p>

<p>if your grades were truly terrible in high school until senior year(as you said), meaning that you didn’t outperform 90% of your classmates, then you’re screwed</p>

<p>hurrah for fellow Canadian=]</p>

<p>you’re a very unique applicant…I would love to have you as a classmate. Please don’t take this offensively, but do you find yourself struggling to concentrate on a chess game because of your learning disability? I think it could be a stellar essay topic.</p>

<p>ok thanks guys. i’m top 10% in my class (this year) but I bombed other years (not 10% for sure. Hopefully they don’t value the previous grades as much for us Canadians. GPA is about 3.5/4 right now(it’ll be 3.6+ for sure). </p>

<p>Good question nirvanatear! Yes, I did and still do have problems concentrating. Each game lasts anywhere from 4-7 hours typically and it’s a real struggle (brutal,actually!). I mean I really was a competitive sports guy growing up, it suited me well but I ended up standing out in chess so I stopped doing sports starting from high school because of the schedule. I do feel if I was able to get in a zone, (have full, or at least good concentration) my results would be much better. I will lose concentration sometimes and make silly mistakes just like in a math exam. Anyways I’m working on it and it’s gotten better.</p>

<p>What SAT score and GPA do you guys think would really help me ? Am I lacking on the EC’s as well? I mean in order of importance what do you guys think they look for? I’ll still be working my butt off regardless, but I procrastinated my university research and I’d just feel a lot more comfortable knowing a little more about the US application stuff. Other schools I’m considering are: Cornell, NYU Stern, and this HULT business school looks interesting as well. And for a good chance in Canada I’ll apply to U Western Ontario since it’s one of the best in the world itself.</p>

<p>palmarium,</p>

<p>I’m sorry but most people who got into Wharton from Canada have higher GPA and more leadership experience. It’s probably too late to catch up on EC and GPA. For Penn, you need 2250+ on SAT.</p>

<p>I admire your persistence/success in chess! Good luck in the college process!</p>

<p>yeah I agree. Gonna have to do really well on the SAT. Do you guys know if I need SAT II tests as well?</p>

<p>you’ll definitely need a Math II for Wharton</p>

<p>Alright. What order should I write my SAT’s? November SAT and December SAT II? I am registered December for SAT but for SAT II, I missed date (didn’t even know about them, hardly anyone does em here) I but I will standby in November and I’m pretty sure they have a spot.</p>

<p>Don’t listen to these people. As someone at Penn, in Wharton and the College, and in Huntsman, who also works with admissions and gives Penn tours and Wharton info sessions (okay I think I’ve established my credibility on this one), go for it anyway.</p>

<p>There’s no such things as a “SAT cutoff” or anything like that. Everything on your application is read and put into context. You can also really stress the learning disability issue there and overcoming it. I think that nirvanatear is write that it would be a fantastic essay topic to write about overcoming it to learn chess to such a level that you are where you are now. It would stress your uniqueness, your chess skills, and your determination. Honestly, the essays are the most important piece on your application. I spent more time on each of my essays than on the complete rest of all my applications combined.</p>

<p>Don’t ask what score you need for this or that. If you “need” a 760 in something, you’re not going to just try for a 760, nor will you suddenly raise your grade 50 points because of it. You’ll do the best you can regardless, so really just ignore it and apply for what you want. I’ve heard stories of (and know people who) have done awful in high school and gotten in, and those who’ve done amazing who have not. The whole process is really a mystery and no one on CC is really going to beable to demystify it for you.</p>

<p>I highly advise you to go visit Penn and visit Huntsman, where you’ll have the opportunity to talk with the director there. She’s very helpful and can help steer you towards the best way to fill out your application, such as which target, etc.</p>

<p>I don’t check these forums much so if you’d like to contact me, please PM me.</p>