Working out

<p>I’ve been doing a lot of working out lately but I think I am hurting my elbows doing bicep curls. What is the best way to strengthen them without screwing up your elbows/putting the least amount of stress on the elbows?</p>

<p>Also, if I do 35-40 minutes of cardio a day at a target heart rate of 120-145 with about 30-45 minutes of muscle workout (chest/triceps one day, biceps/back the next day, shoulders/legs the next, and then traps/stomach the following), what can I expect at the end of the summer in terms of muscle gain and weight loss given that I cut out all fatty foods and focus on minimizing caloric intake and maximizing protein consumption?</p>

<p>Starve yourself to look pretty.</p>

<p>Well that's one way to create caloric deficits... lol, but I'd rather do so eating, thanks :D</p>

<p>Whatever why do you need to look pretty legend you got your DDR skills to woo the ladies with</p>

<p>Uhhh those two things don't really mix</p>

<p><em>Looks at forum name</em> Hmmmm Dieting? Nope. Cardio? Nope.</p>

<p>Oh snap! University of Pennsylvania forums =o!</p>

<p>lol dude go post at a body building forum or something.</p>

<p>Max, I would think you would want your target heartrate to be a little higher- at least for a third or more of your workout. You will build cardio fitness faster and burn more fat if you spend some time at a higher heartrate. (I am saying this not knowing your max HR, of course). Try some intervals at a higher heartrate.
On the bicep curls- if your elbows are hurting (I have had that problem, too) you need to reduce the weight. Also- your bench press and chest work will also work your biceps.</p>

<p>Legendofmax, you should try the new diet and work out plan that was developed. It basically consists of eating McDonalds 2 times a day, Taco Bell 3 times a day, and any fast food chain for your 6th meal. The only exercise is sitting on the couch changing the channel on the tv occasionally (with the remote, of course). I hear it works wonders.</p>

<p>sarah: Ahh! Of course! I shall do this immediately.</p>

<p>MoWC: Actually, performing at too high a heart rate can make your body start burning sugar instead of fat, which is what you don't want.</p>

<p>MomofWildChild:</p>

<p>Chest exercises do not work your biceps much at all. It works your TRIS, if that's what you're thinking, but biceps are pulling muscles, and chest and tris are pushing. Benching and the like involves pushing.</p>

<p>legendofmax: are you overweight? if so, you should probably work on that cardio and minimizing calories, and then start increasing muscle workouts and protein gradually, because otherwise, you're honestly going to be exhausted. I don't do any cardio, and I'm drained by the end of my workout. But i guess if you're only doing 30-45 minutes, you should be ok. Just don't expect ridiculous muscle growth - for that, you would need about 1.5 hours of workout (45 for each muscle).</p>

<p>I'm not saying to go into your anaerobic zone- but I suspect since you are young that your aerobic zone is higher than that in which you are currently exercising. Trust me on this..... Bench press- yes, mainly triceps (besides chest) but also enough stress on biceps to do some work without the elbow pain.</p>

<p>honestly, it doesn't matter what you burn. Burning calories is burning calories. If you burn sugar now, the calorie deficit will eat away at your fat later. Furthermore, your metabolism will also probably be much higher later on after your workout so you will burn more too.</p>

<p>And legend, no matter what your situation, don't just do cardio. Building muscle mass will also make you lose weight. Your metabolism increases and you will see increases in beneficial hormones. And yeah don't go crazy on the protein.</p>

<p>Flipperbw: No I'm not overweight at all -- actually very thin. I want to just get rid of some extra out-of-shape fat (you can still be thin and out of shape) and tone some muscles and build some bulk, is all. I do a lot of cardio, attempting to eat as few calories as possible but not so little that I am starving myself. Should I increase muscle workout to an hour? It's just that I don't know how long I can last after cardio. Yesterday I was doing tris/chest and it got to the point where I couldn't even push away 10 pounds... they were so exhausted (they hurt like hell even as I type this).</p>

<p>MichaelJ: Yeah I recall reading that muscle mass is conducive to weight loss. Something about lean mass to fat mass ratios or something with respect to caloric deficits. BTW about burning calories, wouldn't burning sugar just make you tired? It would prevent you from doing a lot of muscle exercises (like when you run a lot you use up glycogen from energy storage/sugar in the muscles), even if the deficit makes you lose more later. Why not just burn it directly instead of losing the sugar?</p>

<p>legend, go check out the bodybuilding dot com forums....</p>

<p>if you want to no longer be thin and gain bulk with toned muscles, I would suggest you chill out on the cardio and go into a caloric surplus and gain a bunch of weight... then you can start cutting the bulk and turning it into muscle...</p>

<p>i'm not sure I understood your goals 100%, but if you want to get bigger... that'd be a good way</p>

<p>I want to essentially lose fat and gain muscle.</p>

<p>at the end of it, all you need to do <i>something</i>. Until you start hitting plateau's, a general regimen of eating healthier, lifting weights, and doing some cardio will ensure you get more in shape.</p>

<p>the caloric deficit is NOT wholly true. by burning the "sugar" now (i.e. glycogen levels), you won't burn fat later. if anything, it will eat away at the muscle fibers when you're that drained. all calories are not created equal. </p>

<p>if you're trying to get into better shape, you're on a good start... you're actually going. make sure you keep strict form (the elbow pain when you're doing a bicep curl is likely because you are jerking with your shoulders from doing too much weight. relax on the weight if your form isn't perfect). trying to build up some muscle mass, you may be best doing 3 shorter (45minutes or so) full-body workouts per week for a little while. if you're new to the game, your aren't experienced enough and your muscles aren't prepared to get the maximum growth potential that's available with split workouts. just by lifting weights for the beginning period, say 3-4 months, you'll be wore down within an hour. If you overdo it, you'll overtrain. That's the last thing you want to happen because you'r body will eat away at itself to pull protein from the muscle fibers you just built up to repair something else... a bit counterproductive. just do the big compound movements for at least a few weeks... you'll gain more size and in turn burn more fat doing this instead of isolation movements. look at your legs, chest, and back in relation to your bicep (1/3 of your arm size). there's a huge difference... cardio doesn't burn calories... the movement of muscle does. if you gain 5% more muscle, you'll burn 5% more calories simply by being there. 1 pound of lean muscle burns i believe 7 more calories per hour being stagnant.</p>

<p>eat often!! 5-6 meals per day at least. watch the sugary carbohydrates. take a little bit post workout to restore the depleted glycogen levels, and don't go splurge on candy bars, cake, or cookies all the time. starchy carbs in the morning or early afternoon (like oatmeal, brown bread or rice), and fibrous carbs in the evening. these are things like leafy green vegetables. a few starchy carbs will be fine as well, especially when taken with protein right before you go to bed. you'll use carbohydrate energy to break down the protein to build muscle instead of breaking the protein for energy to use itself... it's just more productive to do it that way.</p>

<p>eat enough protein!! 1gm per pound of bodyweight (if you can get 1.5-2, more power to you. it's suggested for growing, but it costs so much and you have to eat so much it's not practical. 1gm/lb will get you a good base anyway), otherwise you'll be doing all that work for nothing. make sure it's quality protein as well. check the amino acid content.... as a general rule of thumb, if it doesn't give the amino acid content on the jug, don't buy it!</p>

<p>if you're going for low-intensity (target heart rate) cardio, do it after your workout. lifting weights will burn glycogen stores, and ONLY glycogen stores. cardio will burn glycogen stores and then dig into the fat cells for energy... this is where you'll actually see the difference. if you were doing it the other way, the gains you'll see will be phenomenal... you'll get more out of a 20 minute cardio session PWO than a 30-45 minute one pre, and a better weight workout as well. your other alternative is to do a short HIIT workout before weightlifting (google if you don't know what it is... high intensity interval training). this gets the blood flowing and, while probably not the best idea for trying to build muscle, will enhance your cardiovascular system. it doesn't deal with target heart rate, but fluctuating rates to continue to burn on the fat stores without tapping into the glycogen levels so much... similar to thermogenic fat loss aids (keeps body temperature and metabolism at a higher level for a few hours).</p>

<p>if you have a little bit of money to spare and this is a goal you're dedicated to, buy a few supplements. I'd recommend a good blended protein (NOT a straight whey... it's good, but not the best for the money if you're just going to buy a single jug), glutamine (amino acid... 60% of the solid fiber in the muscles is made out of this single amino acid. you'll build better, take longer to reach a catabolic stage, and your immune system will be higher. if you don't supplement glutamine when you work out, the body uses the glutamine it has to build muscle instead of fight off sickness. oh, and as an added bonus, you won't be near as sore for the same period of time!), and a good multivitamin.</p>

<p>let me know if you need me to go into more detail. good luck on your quest to look good nekkid.</p>

<p>pm me if you need any advice on brand quality or cost/benefit. i manage a sports nutrition store.</p>

<p>good luck on your quest to look good nekkid. it's a lifestyle change, so don't base it soley on your gains by the end of summer. you'll make some great gains if you do it right, and will continue to do so in the future. (for perspective, i put on 40 lbs in 4 months and went from 11% to 8% bodyfat. note that this is beginner gains and the trend slows down dramatically from there. i ate a lot of food, took my protein shakes religiously, 5g glutamine in each shake, and my vitamins every day. worked out hard every time i went, and made sure to do everything right to the best of my ability.)</p>

<p>I've been doing 45 minute cardio before my weights... so I should be doing this the other way around? Here's what I usually do:</p>

<p>35-45 minutes of cardio in Target Heart Range
4 sets of 8 on a given machine exercising back/biceps or tris/chest
Then if I am doing biceps I might go on an incline and lift 50 pounds until I get tired, switch to 30 and continue, then switch to 20.</p>

<p>What is an ideal workout session in terms of length and sets? I am mainly focused on my arms and stomach (want to lose any fat that exists and replace it with muscle). I've been going to the gym for a week and I've lose two pounds so far. Been eating healthier (tuna, turkey, cereal, sandwiches, Lean Cuisine, whole wheat, multivitamin, whey protein, water) as well. Anything I should be changing/doing differently?</p>

<p>cardio/weightlifting needs to be switched if you're doing target heart rate. don't worry about specific body parts... you'll begin to look disproportionate... not a good look. </p>

<p>get into a rhythm first... machines are okay to start with, but switch to free weights as soon as you can. big core lifts... squats, bench, pullups, dips. hold off on deadlifts... do hyperextensions and/or good mornings until you have a good form, but you still need a strong core (abs, obliques, and lower back). have someone help you to make sure you don't hurt yourself... most of the guys in the gym would be more than happy to help.</p>

<p>don't focus on losing "weight", but rather becoming healthier. as i said earlier, i gained weight & lost fat. you're breaking down muscle tissue too much and some of your 2 pounds isn't just fat. and for the record, two pounds/week is the absolute most you should lose.. any more than that and i can guarantee with 99.99% accuracy some of that is muscle. </p>

<p>shoot for 3-5 sets of 8-12 reps... go a little lighter and focus on form (!!!!) until you get the hang of it. this isn't an end-all rule, but a pretty good rule of thumb. the proper set/rep ranges vary from person to person, this is just my opinion. once you get the basics down then you'll be able to have a better grasp of what you're doing and progress to heavier weights, split workout schemes, etc.... increase strength and size (once you get started, i promise you won't want just bigger arms and six pack abs. my midsection is less defined right now than it was when i was 16 and shredded... but i'm a lot bigger now, much stronger, and willing to continue to gain until i lose the view. i have a link to a buddy i helped train from 163 to 204 in the picture... 210 now. have to do that through a PM though, not on this forum.)</p>

<p>i'm not going for straight size, but an aesthetically pleasing, functional body, and, thus far, have been very pleased. it's a lifestyle change, not just a simple goal. i can only promise that if it's not something you really want, and just going for "bigger arms and six pack abs" or whatever, you'll have a very hard time succeeding. it takes a long time and a lot of hard work and dedication... but in my opinion, it's completely worth it. hell, it's just worth it for the new looks you'll get from the girls :) oh yeah, and you'll feel better, both about yourself and all around health-wise.</p>

<p>Oh no I totally understand the new lifestyle change... that's what I am going for. This year is going to be different from any other year I've had so far in my life and I'd like to start it off by getting in shape because I'm really serious about it but am quite uneducated about how to do it the most effectively.</p>

<p>So free weights moreso than machines... is it alright to do workouts everyday? Biceps/back one day, chest/tris the next, etc, alternating? Most of these workouts should be done at roughly 10 reps 3-5 times? Is this per exercise? As in, if I shoot through a total of 100 reps of just curling say 15-20 pounds with each arm, am I good for the day or would more NOT be overtraining? As for triceps, what are the best freeweight exercises for those/the chest? I'm basically just trying to craft a <em>very</em> specific schedule and stick to it because that is easiest for me to understand.</p>