<p>This Q is for all current UM students. How much time per day do you spend doing work for classes, is there enough free time to lift weights, play IM sports, and join clubs and groups along with having enough time to just relax and enjoy college. Also, how challenging are the classes and how diffucult is it to get a 3.7 gpa for freshman year in LSA. Thanks for the responses.</p>
<p>it really depends on you. How well do you learn materials? How much work are you willing to put in to earn that gpa? if you take typical courses first year, it shouldn’t be too bad. Then again, there are many people here who are lazy and they just slack off, and their gpa’s are just terrible. Of course youll be able to balance yourself both academically and socially. The classes are pretty straightforward, and not terribly difficult. You should be fine :)</p>
<p>Depends on your major.
If you are going for one of the premed majors, or major science/math its going to be slightly more of a time commitment than the typically history or social science major.</p>
<p>A 3.7 in LSA is roughly top 20%. That mark is tougher to achieve if you’re going to be taking weedout courses.</p>
<p>Hi, I’m an engineer sophomore and you spend tremendous time in studying and keeping up with work. That having been said, there is still plenty of time for club activities, socializing and believe it or not as an engineer, party. It really depends on how you balance your work, but most of people in Michigan study really hard. You will be spending lot of time studying, but there is time to hit the gym, chill, and party.</p>
<p>It really depends on you. Michigan is actually a very academically challenging school (for a lot of majors) even though it admits students of a wide swath of academic potentials. </p>
<p>Some of my friends have to study all of the time to stay afloat; some study ridiculous hours and do all of the prep work only to pull out a ‘B’. Others cruise by getting A’s with minimal effort. It really is dependent on who you are as a student. If you learn material quickly then you won’t need to study much, if it takes you a while then you will. </p>
<p>Sorry for the least helpful answer to your question. I study probably 2 or 3 hours a day (sometimes less) with a late night thrown in every week for big assignments or to catch up on reading, and an all nighter when I have an exam or paper. I manage above a 3.7 in LSA but have only taken one weeder course. </p>
<p>I’ve actually found that it’s my extracurricular activity which end up dominating my time.</p>
<p>a 3.7 is tough, I really, really had to work</p>
<p>Tyler, if you don’t mind me asking what is/are your major(s) and what’s that extracurricular that dominates your time?</p>
<p>Also, it varies from class to class.</p>
<p>For example, my polisci class last semester I put zero effort into buuuut this semester I find myself having to study quite a bit for econ to get A-/B+'s</p>
<p>Thanks guys for all the help, I see where some of it is up to me and how I learn stuff along with managing my time because I was a little nervous about not having time to enjoy college and do IM sports and stuff</p>
<p>Also, giants you mentioned weedout courses, could you name some of these, especially Ross weedout courses.</p>
<p>The definition of a weedout course is one that separates those who are able to do relatively well in the field from those who likely cannot. </p>
<p>Ross weedout courses: Math 115 (Calc I) and Econ 101 (Intro Micro Theory)</p>
<p>I call those Ross weedout courses because they are 2 of the 3 prereqs freshmen need to take to even be eligible to get into Ross. They are curved to a B- (from my understanding… I placed out of them…) and GPA is a pretty big factor in admissions. The other is English 125 (Intro to College Writing?) but is not as hard. Once you’re into Ross, you’re entire curriculum is a weedout process for prospective employers (separates the best from the simply good… or the bad that slipped through the cracks…).</p>
<p>There are many other weedout courses for many other majors and they are all generally curved to about a B- (curved to = median grade). Some examples include Econ 101 & 102 (Intro Macro) for economics. However, beyond 101 & 102 are 401 (Intermediate Micro) & 402 (Intermediate Macro) which are considered more difficult. In that sense, economics has four different courses to weed you out (but if you can cut one of them you can normally cut the others… or at least if you can cut 101 you can normally cut 102, and if you can cut 401 you can normally cut 402). Premed is a whole slew of weedout courses, ranging from Gen. Chem to Orgo. Chem, to Physics 140/141 + 240/241 (<- perhaps not necessary?), and likely more of which I am unaware since I am not premed. The Calc sequence Math 115-116-215 (Calc I, II, & III) are weedout courses for math majors and engineers (who have to take physics too). The softer subjects don’t tend to have as rigorous “weedout” courses as the hard sciences. Regardless of the subject, if you’re at least of average intelligence and have a good work ethic, I believe you can do well in most weedout courses (although some just don’t have the quantitative aptitude to excel).</p>
<p>All you need to worry about for Ross is Calc I and Econ 101</p>
<p>Neither of which are unbearable if you’re confident and test scores coming in are high. I wouldn’t recommend skipping 101 lectures though, can get confusing at times and the tests are ridiculous.</p>
<p>And I mean ridiculous.</p>
<p>I asked the same of engineering majors last week and only got one reply. Maybe they’re too busy lol. I’m a hard working student and have a pretty good work ethic. I think I am going to go for it, Go Blue!</p>
<p>I want to apply to Ross as a freshman, and i know that Calc I and Econ 101 are required. I have taken both bc calc and ap micro and macro. These will allow me to skip out of those courses. So I can apply to ross without taking the weedout courses?</p>
<p>I don’t know about the rest of you, but getting a 3.7 is not that hard. I say this is while taking the hard science “weedout” classes. You just need friends. :)</p>
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<p>Calc will get you credit as long as you do well enough on the AP test, but Econ won’t (anymore).</p>
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<p>Just because it’s not hard for you doesn’t mean it’s not hard for the average person.</p>
<p>"I don’t know about the rest of you, but getting a 3.7 is not that hard. I say this is while taking the hard science “weedout” classes. You just need friends. "</p>
<p>Well, I have trouble with it, but good for you. I just can’t very well compare myself to CCers. </p>
<p>But about the Ross question, I am pretty sure that you have to take some math class (and maybe even some clac class) at Michigan to go to Ross. You don’t have to take 115 but you have to take something.</p>
<p>You have to take 115. Calculus I is required.</p>
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<p>I was talking about if you got credit for Calc 1 from the AB or BC test. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.</p>