<p>Hey there, I'm just stopping by to ask a quick reference question to either all you former and current MSU alumni, or those who are future prospects like myself. </p>
<p>A few weeks agoi I completed my MSU application form and had all my items sent to the institution in hope they would reach before the Dec. 1'st deadline. My application was received on the 30th, as well as my ACT scores. Unfortunately, my transcript has still NOT reached them. So this ultimately diminishes any chance I had of EA, and scholarship offers. Also, it now puts me in the pull of regular admissions, and my stats are not strong at all. As a matter of fact they're only moderately decent. So my question is, are my chances still salvageable, or should I start planning to attend somewhere else next fall, here's an overlook of my stats:</p>
<p>Rank: ^15%
Ethnicity: African American
Residency: Out-of-State (Illinois)
GPA: 3.2 (Filled with Honors, AP, and College Course classes)
ACT: 24/w Writing (11)</p>
<p>Intended Major: Communications</p>
<p>Activities:</p>
<p>Marching Band for 4 years as Trombonist, as well as a Drum Major
SICA Rank II in Trombone Performance
SICA All-Cast Awardee in Group Intepretation
Member of the Tech Clunb
Student Council Representative</p>
<p>Work Experience:</p>
<p>Public Library since end of Sophmore year</p>
<p>So what do you guys think? In addition I feel I wrote an extremely strong personal statement, so...I hope all goes well!</p>
<p>You're in easily. I know a girl with a 3.67 GPA, no EC's, and a 21 ACT that got in. African-American of course, pre-Proposal 2. Either way, you're still at least MSU's average student, and being a URM makes your chances very, very good.</p>
<p>On another note MSU's registrar's office is being a ***** and won't let me get my damn PID or PIN or whatever the **** I need.</p>
<p>your race is optional when you apply to MSU, so being African American wouldn't matter to admissions. It is used for statistical purposes only, so I don't know what DaRareBlackNerd is talking about.</p>
<p>You are the ideal student for MSU, so you need not worry.</p>
<p>Wrong DaRareBlackNerd: MSU's most recent "averages" for incoming frosh were: 3.6 GPA and 25 ACT, ... so a 3.2 GPA and 24 ACT does not make one an "average student" at MSU.</p>
<p>smurfette2692, despite what the school may say I know for a fact that MSU allows African-Americans admissions to the school with lower ACT scores. As I said before, friend of mine was accepted with a 3.7ish and 21 ACT. She doesn't play sports nor does she have particularly great ECs(none at all actually and no job). </p>
<p>It's true that you don't have to mark your race but I think it isn't used for statistical purposes only. It might be but I don't think so. I've known too many of my peers to get in at the school with lower scores and GPAs.</p>
<p>I wasn't aware that MSU's averages have changed...I was under the impression that the average ACT was just below a 24, and the average GPA a 3.55. Excuse me. Oh...she's out of state too...nevermind.</p>
<p>MSU does not practice affirmative action (unlike Umich), and according to one of my profs here, your race is used for statistical purposes. It has no bearing on whether you are admitted or not. </p>
<p>I don't know why your peers are getting in with low GPA's and scores since I am not an admissions officer at MSU. I do not think it is "easy" to get into MSU, but the application process is not as intense as U of M's. (For MSU, you have to write one essay as opposed to one essay and two short answers).</p>
<p>Nevertheless, to the OP, I hope you do get in because MSU is a wonderful place to attend!</p>
<p>Well I often read that MSU is "...an Affirmative Action equal opportunity..." instutition or something like that often on their admissions literature. Look at the bottom left corner at the letter you recieved upon being admitted. I think it's in their catalog too.</p>
<p>whoops..I meant to say that yes, we do practice it (I don't know why my prof said we don't), but we do not go as far as UofM by using a point system. Although, UofM has gotten rid of the point system, they must rely on something. Someone in my class said that her parents worked for UofM admissions and last year, they were accepting a high number of hispanics. Every year, they pick a new ethnic group to accept more of. </p>
<p>Smurfette, it's incorrect to say MSU does not practice affirmative action. In fact, it does, it just does so in a less obvious, less intrusive way UM did (past tense) for it's also wrong to say UM still practices the same AA it did before the Gratz and Grutter US Supreme Court decisions. Also note: those cases did not overturn AA, Prop 2, at least, attempts to. It remains to be seen how, exactly, Prop 2 will be implemented.</p>
<p>Wondering if anyone knows reasoning behind Michigan State University requesting 7th semester grades for a high school senior...application was received at MSU Oct.18th and request for additional grades was received by applicant December 5th. What are the chances of admission? Is this different from being "deferred"? Call to Admissions office was not very helpful...</p>
<p>ACT 22
G.P.A. 3.7 (7 IB courses)
Lots of EC
Varsity Swim Team
Women's Choral Ensemble
Study Abroad Student Ambassador
Community Volunteen/SPCA Volunteer
Yearbook Editor
Employed Part-Time</p>
<p>What did the admissions office say? My S also got such a letter. ACT score 25 - only took it one time junior year, said that's enough. We figured the request was because he applied to the new res college and they were waiting as long as possible so they could cherry pick applicants for that school. S is oK with it as he has been accepted at other schools already and he's waaay more laid back and fatalistic than I. He's be the first MSU student in our family, we're kindof a M go Blue fam.</p>
<p>Ths MSU admissions office was very vague and stated that
"this means we're waiting for 7th semester grades before we make an admission decision"...
( that's exactly what the letter stated). When I asked if this was similar to a deferral or waitlist , she again stated the same robotic answer...</p>
<p>A whole lot of nothing sounds like. Well, if they wait too long I know my S will just blow off State since he's not too keen on the big schools anyway. We have trimesters in our school system. GC sent S's scores in last week. Next trimester doesn't end until February, I think.</p>