<p>If you did cheat, option A will likely yield the best results. It’s a relatively mild punishment and lesson learned. A single C will not ruin your life.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you didn’t cheat, option B will yield the bet results. If you honestly had the performance, you’d be able to get similar (if not better) results the second time around. There would have been no need to study again as you’ve already studied for it the first time, and info doesn’t disappear that quickly. But, if you cheated, you have little chance of reproducing the results.</p>
<p>Based on what I’m reading, I’d imagine you made the mistake of cheating. To be honest, I feel that cheaters don’t deserve to attend any college. This lack of academic honesty dilutes the degree and defeats the primary purpose of college: education. So, if you did in fact cheat, you better take option A and never cheat again! Not acceptable.</p>
<p>Suppose you hadn’t been caught this time. If you get caught in college, the punishments are usually an immediate F in the class followed by expulsion the second time. If you make it thru college without getting caught, an issue will come up in real life and you won’t have anybody to cheat off of. You fail to solve the issue when all your colleagues are depending on you, and you may cause your company to fold. In particular, if you’re an engineer and your incompetence (due to cheating) causes a plane to crash and kill hundreds of people, even if you are never caught, the guilt will be with you forever.</p>
<p>Jesus christ, I dont know why people think I should utterly lose my whole life because I cheated IN HIGHSCHOOL. I know its a big deal as of now, and in college, I obviously have to learn the material, but NOT GOING TO COLLEGE BECAUSE I CHEATED seems a little harsh if you ask me. If you were in my shoes, I do not think you would say the same thing.</p>
<p>Also, you can even argue that the most successful companies, pretty much virtually every government, and surprisingly a lot of valedictorians CHEAT to get ahead of everyone else. I am not saying that this is good, and that I am likely to do it again, but you could say that companies cheat by reverse engineering rival companies products to make them better, which is cheating, right?</p>
<p>And like you said excel, that is why college is a lot more serious because you actually have to learn the material for your future and receive a real degree, which you could arguably say is much more serious than highschool.</p>
<p>Also, a lot of think that I cheated because I said so in the other thread, but because everyone just stops reading after they see “I cheated”, I have to clarify for the 24985289057 time that Me, and pretty much half the class, cheated so insignificantly that the teacher would not notice, leading em to believe that he is either bias because of my previously bad grades, or because he saw my high grade, he thought I cheated from my friend, who had similar answers from me.
However, the reality is that everyone had to have the same answers because it was the same test, leading me to believe that he automatically thought I cheated because of my high test grade and the similarity between mine and my friend.
That is the main problem, which i can not get by, leaving me the only option.
Option 1</p>
<p>I was a teacher and believe me, cheating is easy to spot. Your teacher isn’t biased against you, he could tell from the two papers that someone copied from the other person.</p>
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<p>I don’t think anyone said that. Your teacher is giving you an out but if you go to him with the attitude you are displaying on this thread he may well rethink this offer he has made which is a lot more than he owes you.</p>
<p>I don’t think you’ve learned anything from this. It’s all about whether your teacher can prove his case and that he has singled you out and that the degree to which you cheated is minor and everyone else did it too and it doesn’t seem to be about the fact that you cheated. You can’t seem to admit you did something wrong without adding but this, but that, but the other thing.</p>
<p>Oh, I can GUARANTEE you that I learned a lesson from this.</p>
<p>and excel specifically posted</p>
<p>“To be honest, I feel that cheaters don’t deserve to attend any college.”</p>
<p>and also, my argument is that I am almost certain that he could not have identified me cheating without being bias. I said the reasons multiple times through this thread.</p>
<p>Definitely option A.
When you are in this type of situation, be honest and take full responsibility. The teacher will at least give you some respect if you admit what you have done is wrong and apologize sincerely. You attitude right now shows that you are very immature. Sure, the teacher might secretly hate you, but he is actually trying to help you right now. If you give him this type of “you did this b/c you hate me” attitude, he has the right to write a letter stating that you cheated to every single college you applied to. In fact, my math teacher once did this to a student and he was rejected to every college.
I would say- go to the teacher and apologize, try to study as much as to can, and take option A. Even if you do fail, a C won’t keep you out of all the colleges, but letter stating that you not only cheated but also tried to lie to your teacher would.</p>
<p>Why are you arguing with us? You asked for advice and we gave it. Sure, maybe your teacher is biased, but the fact still remains that you cheated. Going to your principal and saying, “Yeah, I cheated, but HE is biased!” isn’t a strong argument. In most situations, a student would receive a 0 and whatever disciplinary action cheating or plagiarism calls for. All you have to do is take a test again…or, well, I suppose you could get the zero and the disciplinary action if you asked nicely.</p>
<p>You’re right, excel did say this and it’s an absolutely silly thing to say. You made a mistake, so what? I’d still like to see you get into your first choice college and if not then one of the other colleges on your list that you really want to go through.</p>
<p>You’re going to get through this. Accept the punishment and then put this behind you. I get the impression you are a good student, you’ve got a bright future ahead of you.</p>
<p>Option A does seem like the only reasonable choice under the circumstances. You should be extremely grateful that you were even offered this option. Don’t try to justify cheating. Cheating is never ok. </p>
<p>I fail to see how receiving even a D in AP Physics would ruin your life. If you are not able to get more than 60 or 70 on the regular tests it would seem that a C or D is the fair grade for you. I would think you get a second semester in this course - do better. If the C or D is not representative of your understanding of the subject, that will show on the AP test. If your grades in other subjects are high it should not hurt you overall. You may not get into an Ivy, but there is no guarantee of that anyway. If you are so close to an admittance GPA cut-off that this one grade makes a difference perhaps you are looking at the wrong schools. You have to be able to do the work once you get there. People find success through many different paths.</p>
<p>If you cheated, tell the teacher you are sorry and retake the test for 75%. Apologize to your friend and the teacher and maybe he will not make your friend retake the test. </p>
<p>If you did not cheat, retake the test and prove it. If you did not cheat, you will get the same grade or better. Then make him apologize to you for calling you a liar and a cheat.</p>
<p>I don’t get why you care about this teacher’s supposed bias. If you cheated, you should fess up, request a 0 on the exam rather than take the unnecessarily easy out your teacher provided, apologize to your friend for putting them in an extraordinarily difficult situation, and end the matter now. </p>
<p>If I were in your position (assuming you cheated), that’s the only way I could look back without shame.</p>
<p>Requesting a 0 on the exam would back matter’s a lot worse than retaking the exam for a 75 .Some people or more understanding than you. Seeing that if I got a 0 on the exam, I would not only learn my lesson, but also be completely, 100% screwed. Seeing that if I get a 75%, not only would I learn a lesson, I would be able to redeem myself without getting a big consequence (-25% credit).</p>
<p>I said this in my other thread. I took the exam without my friend there. He probobly thinks that I completely cheated because he gave me the same exam, and I can show him…with my high grade again.</p>
<p>If you cheated and you contest his accusation, then you honestly deserve to get the harshest punishment and ruined college prospects. You will have to repent for your offense by studying harder and suffering the consequences.</p>
<p>There is a difference between not deserving and outright denying. I feel cheaters do not deserve to attend college because they ruin the process for everyone; however, if it was actually the case that they simply are denied without any questions asked, that’d be harsh.</p>
<p>Sure, there may be people who do reverse engineering in the real world, but it differs from cheating in the sense that the goal was to design something, not an education. Cheating in the real world is akin to plying about the specs of something you designed or gaming evaluation metrics.</p>
<p>By the attitude you have displayed in this thread though, with not owning up to mistakes and taking cheating so light-heartedly, I do have to say: while I stand that cheaters do not deserve to go to college, I further think that you, in particular, should not be allowed to attend college or hold any job worthy of any respect. People like you are simply fraudsters and deserve to rot in jail. Yes, actually making you rot in jail is harsh, but it’s really what you deserve.</p>