Worst Statistics To Be Accepted

[dewdrop87]

<p>^^^new paltz</p>

[applejack]

<p>Norcalguy - I was immersed in both Arts and Sciences and CALS at Cornell.</p>

<p>“You mean the people with high GPA do not “reguritate” facts?”</p>

<p>No, I guess I was confusing. Sorry. I mean regurgitation is what gains most high GPAs. The educational system (especially the AP track in high school) is designed to reward people who can regurgitate, not people who can think. Trust me, as someone who can think but not memorize, the system is weighted heavily in favor of mindless regurgitation.</p>

[fd36]

<p>“the state owned schools at cornell have the same weight as the other schools. its not like if you are a NY state resident, you can get away with a 3.0 gpa and a 1800 if you apply to CALS or something” </p>

<p>uh…yes you can get away with those…especially if you are an H/EOP student…</p>

[farahe221]

<p>Are you at a disadvantage applying to one of the land grant colleges from out of state?</p>

[dewdrop87]

<p>I’m not sure if you’re at a huge disadvantage…but the Dean of CALS does mandate that the student ratio be 60% from NYS and 40% non-NYS (I’ve heard them mention this at many CALS information panels)</p>

[iam]

<p>quag_mire:
My brother is attending Cornell’s CoE. Had exceptional high school record and ec’s. 4.0 and above gpa for 8 staright semesters. All SATs in low 700’s, certainly not 600- or below.
3 other kids applied from his year, all 3.75 if not 4.0 gpa’s. Very decent SATs. All three were rejected.
btw we are all Internationals. Not one applied for Fin Aid, including my brother.
Moral of the story: It’s not easy for internationals, there is a minimum criteria that Cornell has and internationals, more than anyone else, have to fulfill it. That’s why less than 9% or so are accepted to their freshmen class each year. That being said, Cornell is awesome and my brother loves it!!!</p>

[plzaccept1989]

<p>You guys are diverging from the OP’s question. If you want to go of in anotha direction start your own thread. the OP wants some hope, and I can relate, so please stick to the topix</p>

<p>thanks</p>

[Tahoe]

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@dewdrop87

I’m not sure if you’re at a huge disadvantage…but the Dean of CALS does mandate that the student ratio be 60% from NYS and 40% non-NYS (I’ve heard them mention this at many CALS information panels)

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<p>This is such annoying misinformation and it appears on this site about every 3 weeks. There is no way that the Dean mandates anything of the sort. Read the correct answer (in red below) from the “Dear Uncle Ezra” column.</p>

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• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • Question 10 - - December 9, 2004 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</p>

<p>Dear Uncle Ezra,
I have a question concerning Cornell’s status as an Ivy League School. According to definition,
an Ivy League school is a private instution, and part of some type of sports league which was established back in the day. These institutions include Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. However, Cornell is made up of not only the private A+S, Engineering, and Architecture schools, but Hum Ec, Ag, and ILR. (Not sure about Hotel)Despite any notability they might have, they are significantly easier to get into for NY state residents, and cheaper as well due to their status as a public state school. Therefore,
isn’t it true that these schools are NOT Ivy League? shed the light proud arts and science student
Dear proud,</p>

<p>I too am proud of the College of Arts and Sciences undergraduates just as I am equally proud of the outstanding students in Human Ecology, CALS, ILR, Hotel, Engineering, and AAP, and the graduate and professional schools as well. Cornell University is a unique and wonderful place with many special qualities. I think, however, that you have several misconceptions about the university, including its status as an Ivy League institution, its admissions policies, and the caliber of our student body.</p>

<p>1) The Ivy League is an athletic conference. What sets this group of schools apart from other conferences is its adherence to the Ivy agreement, which most notably reflects common admissions standards and the absence of athletic scholarships. The Ivy schools are Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale. To learn more see Q11 from 2/18/03 posting. </p>

<p>2) Cornell University is a land grant university for the State of New York, so our mission is both public and private, which is one of the many unique features that sets Cornell apart from our Ivy peers. This standing also puts us in another elite group of other land grant institutions across the U.S.</p>

<p>3) At one time, Cornell University’s contract colleges (Agriculture and Life Sciences, Human Ecology, and Industrial and Labor Relations) used residency as a factor in the admissions process. However, it is important to note that these colleges have always admitted the best students, regardless of residency. As the applicant pools have begun to shift and the university receives larger numbers of domestic and international applications, university statistics suggest that residency has actually become a non-factor in admission to these colleges. In general, the proportion of New York State residents who are admitted and enroll in these colleges is equivalent to the proportion of NYS students in the entire applicant pool. This has actually been the case for several years.

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[dewdrop87]

<p>That post is from 2004…and this information that I posted was mentioned at a 2007 admissions info panel…by the CALS Director of Admissions herself. As a matter of fact I believe her exact line, when asked how out of state applicants are viewed was, “we look at NYS and non-NYS applicants the same, but the Dean likes us to keep the ratio at 60% NYS and 40% non-NYS”</p>

<p>NYS or Non-NYS…it doesn’t really matter so let’s drop it…this thread is not going in the direction that the OP intended…and I think people have made their point anyway.</p>

[nagromis]

<p>Before this gets dropped, I would like to add that the phasing of the statement matters. “The Dean mandates…” is different than “The Dean likes us to keep the ratio…”</p>

[norcalguy]

<p>Keep in mind, just because a school strives to keep a certain percentage of OOSers vs. in-staters, it doesn’t mean in-state applicants receive an advantage. If 60% of the applicants to Cornell’s contract schools are in-state, Cornell can probably maintain a 60% in-state matriculant percentage naturally.</p>

<p>In fact, Cornell can probably afford to be choosier when choosing in-state acceptees because the yield among in-state applicants will be higher than the yield among out of state applicants, meaning they won’t have to accept as many in-staters to fill up the same number of seats.</p>

[dewdrop87]

<p>I never said NYS students have an advantage over non-NYS students but I do agree that they certainly don’t</p>

<p>[CALS</a> Admissions: FAQs](<a href=“http://cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/faq.cfm]CALS”>http://cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/faq.cfm)</p>

<p>if anyone is interested…check out questions 1 and 2</p>

<p>and nagromis…thank you for the vocab lesson</p>

[butitswayupnorth]

<p>cornell released statistics that show there is one person (currently attending) w/ an SAT math in the 300s…</p>

<p>now, i’m guessing he/she has a phenomenal story or is related to Cornell/Day/White…</p>

[yousonofatree]

<p>really? Just curious, where’d you get that info?</p>

[butitswayupnorth]

<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000001.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000001.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;