Would Kelley be a safety?

<p>I'm a senior in CA, and here are the stats.</p>

<p>ACT: 31 </p>

<p>AP's: Span- 5 Eng- 4 US History- 3</p>

<p>GPA: 3.38 w</p>

<p>ECs listed on app: football, track, was in 2 clubs, and work</p>

<p>Job/Work Experience: did finances that were really receipts at a family friend's company and also had a job there too</p>

<p>Essays (subject and responses): already started so they should be very good- on two hardships that have come down on me the last 2 years, and my dealing w/ them.</p>

<p>Teacher Recs: better than great</p>

<p>Counselor Rec: great</p>

<p>School Type: Private, does not rank</p>

<p>Ethnicity: Hispanic</p>

<p>Gender:M</p>

<p>Also: Took 3 summer courses at a local comm. college, one of them being business</p>

<p>Average GPA for entry into IU is about 3.5 these days. I’ll leave it to others to comment on Kelley.</p>

<p>Good test score, bad GPA unless you took very few honors courses (which IU won’t like if that’s the case–and which doesn’t seem to be the situation since you took 3 year-long AP classes at least).</p>

<p>You are pretty much slightly above borderline for entry into IU (Kelley). I’d say you will probably get in as long as you are in the top 50% of your high school class. The ECs and good test score–and high AP scores are all in your favor. Also, your hispanic background will work in your favor, since they are trying to diversify the class a bit more.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>P.S> Note that I’m expecting you to get in as a business major, but not as a direct admit to the business school. You will have to get a 3.0+ in some business courses in your first year after coming to Indiana for that. See some of the other threads on here for more info if you don’t understand what we are referring to–particularly this one:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/526258-what-does-take-get-kelley-these-days.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/526258-what-does-take-get-kelley-these-days.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>thanks calcruzer. and i’ve taken a bunch of honors courses.</p>

<p>You might get in.. but if you don’t you can petition for it and if you make a good enough case you should be able to get in… what’s wrong with California schools.. like UCLA,CAL, and USC.. ?</p>

<p>I’d pick CAL or USC over Indiana any day..</p>

<p>UCB and UCLA are very competitive, and USC is very expensive and also competitive. However, if OP can get a scholarship to IU, then IU is almost comparable to a UC financially.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, GSW Fan, Kelley is not a safety for you (as Calcruzer has already noted).</p>

<p>My daughter is a direct admit freshman from California. I’m not sure how important recommendations are because she got her acceptance letter and later found out that her teacher had not even mailed the recommendation yet.</p>

<p>oh ok. well i’m applying to both of those, i’m just looking at other schools too. thanks guys.</p>

<p>I think people don’t know how competitive it is to get into the top 2 UC campuses.</p>

<p>Here’s some info:</p>

<p>UC Berkeley–average admitee weighted GPA (UC GPA) this year–4.18, average SAT (best single sitting score): 2014</p>

<p>UCLA–average admitee weighted GPA (UC GPA) this year–4.16, average SAT (best single sitting score): 1988</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/freshman_admit_profile_2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/freshman_admit_profile_2008.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Oh, and to get into the Haas business program at UC Berkeley, you have to get about a 3.42 GPA at UC Berkeley during your first two years in order to be accepted, and UCLA has no undergraduate business program (just business economics–which is in the economics department). And the averages above are for in-state students. Out-of-state students applying to these schools will have to do significantly better in order to be admitted.</p>

<p>Since considering ethnicity in admissions is illegal in California, I doubt that GSW Fan has a chance of being admitted to either of these campuses (although he/she will be able to get into at least one other UC campus).</p>

<p>Oh, and I should also mention admissions info for USC (University of Southern California, that is; not the University of South Carolina), and their Marshall Business School.</p>

<p>Freshman admissions (approximations since USC does not put out the exact numbers, but only ranges):
Average unweighted GPA–3.77
Average weighted GPA–4.06
Average SAT score–2040</p>

<p>To get into the business school, you have to have about a 3.2 GPA within USC your first two years, or a 3.5 to 3.7 GPA at your current college if transferring (from a top-tier school like Indiana Univ) or about a 3.8 GPA if transferring from a California community college.</p>

<p>Also, it should be noted that USC is a private school and is in the expensive living city of Los Angeles, meaning their current “cost of admission”, which includes, tuition, books, housing, meals, and transportation, is estimated at about $52,000 per year.</p>

<p>wow… I didn;t know these CAL schools were so hard to get into.. thanks for the detailed insight</p>

<p>hate to be the bearer of bad news, but i seriously doubt you’d have a successful petition to kelley with such a low gpa. kelley raised the minimum gpa for direct admit to 3.6. you’d have to do really well on the SAT or ACT to even have a shot at all. kelley’s admissions don’t care so much about how many harder classes you took. there’s just way too many HS students taking honors, AP, accelerated classes these days, and they don’t set you apart from anyone else. kelley is getting very selective and isn’t really a back-up school anymore. if you don’t have the grades, you’re not in.</p>

<p>inthemid… your saying Kelley is in the same calibar to univ of mich ross school of business… we still got 6-8 years to go… until freshmen kids from Univ of mich who don;t get accepted to the ross school of business and as a result come to kelley.. then we are still a back up. we are a back up business school.. its harder to get into the UofI business school then kelley… </p>

<p>our overall student body might not be so bright and hard working as to other busines schools… but our professors/dean/ career center are some of the best.. that is why were are decently ranked at IU.</p>

<p>**Hey, I got off the Ross Business School waitlist and chose
IU instead :P. It was mainly a money issue for me+personal
factors+school intangibles, but yah…</p>

<p>As for overall prestige, yah we’re about 12-14 years away
from Ross level, IF we ever reach that. The fact that IU has
no engineering or hard core quantitative majors hurts it a lot.
If Purdue and Bloomington combined then we’d already be at
Michigan level, but yah…we all know how that went.</p>

<p>In many ways we’re very close to UIUC, I think we can surpass
them soon. Just need to crank out better alumni.</p>

<p>Just my .02**</p>

<p>rad…</p>

<p>You are correct. May I add, Kelley is all of what you make of it. Network.</p>