<p>So anyone else had a rough first semester? I'm ending with like a 3.2 thanks to a certain B- in Econ (I can assure you I'm not an idiot, -15 points/3 questions due to careless math errors on every test was enough to bring me down from an A- to a B-...). </p>
<p>Pretty much a horrific start.</p>
<p>LOL me too haha I’m guessing I’ll get around a 3.6ish? (Was aiming for a 4.0)</p>
<p>A 3.2 isn’t horrible. A 3.6 definitely is not bad. Both are above average.</p>
<p>I’m in LSA. It’s right on average. >_<.</p>
<p>I do believe I’ve brought shame to 295!</p>
<p>**** I thought you were talking about 1st semester in senior year in high school… I thought you were deferred too… LOL</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, how is 295 curved? I imagine any student in there could get a A in 115, so what do they do? Give almost everyone an A?</p>
<p>I’m at about a 3.4…</p>
<p>I am waiting on a grade yet but it is probable I get a 3.8</p>
<p>I’m in HS right now with a 4.0, and probably the hardest schedule in my school. </p>
<p>I’m aiming for a 3.8+, hopefully 4.0, and no less than 3.6 (for EGL) at CoE, CS major next year. How hard will this be?!</p>
<p>Depends on how smart you are I guess… I think a 3.6 in COE is about top 15% I think, so base it off of that.</p>
<p>Yosup,</p>
<p>I’m a CSE major and that’s going to be really tough to graduate with a 3.8+. 3.6 is definitely doable but still very tough. It all depends on how much you want your social life to suffer. I joined a frat this semester and my 3.5+ GPA dropped to a 3.3, so keep that in mind if you’re looking at going Greek.</p>
<p>Have you ever programmed or taken a logic class before? Most of these kids have years of experience with programming. I’d say (and not just because I’m in it…) that CSE and EE are probably the two hardest engineering majors in the CoE.</p>
<p>Joshrk, if someone didn’t have programming experience coming into college, would it be a good idea for them to do CS? How many people have very strong programming experience going into CS? And how strong? I guess I just can’t imagine people are coming in with expertise beyond classes like 101 and 280. Does that expertise make them much better at higher level classes?</p>
<p>A 3.8 or 4.0 in Engineering? Seriously? Better lower your expectations or else you are setting yourself up for major disappointment. A 3.6 is hard enough. The average engineering GPA is like 2.8-3.0.</p>
<p>I took 2 full year computer science classes at high school + a Discrete math class, and got a 5 on the AP Computer Science A exam, but I’m not sure how much this will help. I don’t plan on joining a frat or anything, and I need to get a 3.6+ GPA so I can join EGL. I think the business courses at Ross will help me in the future.</p>
<p>Joshrk22 how was your first year starting out at CoE? First year after declaring a CS major?</p>
<p>Thanks for the info!</p>
<p>@QwertyKey,
Yah totally fine, it’s just going to be a little more work. Three of my buddies and I declared CSE or CE and none of us had programming experience, we’re all doing fine. I got an A in ENGR 101 but once I got to EECS 280 and 203 I realized that I was only average in programming. Finished the classes with B+/B, so you’ll be about average. I would’ve done better this semester if it wasn’t for pledge term AND a job, so you can probably expect to do a little better than I did.</p>
<p>With regards to experience, my first week in 280 I overheard some kids talking about Hash tables and I had no idea what they were referring to (thought it was something about weed). Also, in ENGR101 when they say to do a project according to the specifications, do the project according to specifications!!! We had kids that thought they’d show off and used Classes on the 2nd or 3rd project and received a zero. Totally screwed their grade over by trying to look smart.</p>
<p>@jrt336,</p>
<p>Can’t agree with you more. A 3.6+ GPA in engineering is few and far between, and a 3.8-4.0 is pretty close to impossible. This is not high school anymore, no one cares about a 36 ACT or 4.5+ GPA.</p>
<p>@yosup,</p>
<p>I think you’ll be a little ahead of the class but by about EECS 280 or 281 it’ll even out. I can promise you that college classes are much more difficult than any AP classes.</p>
<p>Having said that… You don’t have to get 100% on everything to get an A, you just need to be in the top 10% of your class to get an A and top 25-30% to get an A-.</p>
<p>As far as that, I got an A- in Engr101, but had to put considerable effort into it. However I had a 97% average for projects, and I did very well at writing code on tests, but did very poorly on the multiple choice. I would imagine I’m good at programming (from calling the average person in 101 average), but I suck at the tricky types of problems. So, do classes like 280, 281, and upper level programming classes focus on the things I am better at or worse at?</p>
<p>The CS AP A exam, from what I’ve heard, isn’t too difficult. Most kids who took AP CS probably took the B exam. This is Michigan, one of the best engineering schools in the country. A 3.6 should be the goal. I know 2 kids who got 33s on ACT and 3.9-4.0 GPAs. Neither of them have a 3.6 and they aren’t in frats. They study really hard too. It is very difficult. It’s not impossible, but you will very little free time unless you are a genius. Hopefully you make it because that’d be pretty sweet.
And did you take Calc BC?</p>
<p>@QwertyKey,</p>
<p>You’re fine, then. About the same level I am. Just don’t decide to pledge a frat your first semester of Sophomore year and you should be able to manage above a 3.3 while in 280 and 203. Also, 280 exams are nothing like 101. It’s strictly writing code and testing your knowledge of the C++ language, it does not trick you like 101 exams. BUT, you don’t get your notes or your book like you do on the 101 exams.</p>
<p>203 is a whole different story. I really struggled in the class because for some reason I suck at proofs. But for the most part it seems like everyone struggles in the class. I would consider 280 and 203 and maybe 281 to be weeder courses for the CSE major.</p>
<p>Yeah, the CS A exam was really easy. I’m taking calc AB right now, and I find it extremely easy. I guess that could just be our class though.</p>
<p>What kind of work do you do in the CS classes you’ve taken? Do you start by learning the C++ language, and then move on to more advanced programming techniques? Does the homework consist of writing programs to solve problems? </p>
<p>Or am I completely off? How are the tests and the professors?</p>
<p>There is no homework in 101, but there are 8 projects that are due about every other week and four fairly easy exams. I came in with no programming experience and still got an A-, but I found the projects to be very time consuming. And like everyone else has said, don’t expect to come in and get a 3.6+.</p>
<p>First semester isn’t over at my school yet, stil have a lot of work to do.</p>