WRITING SECTION- Omg What Does "undecided" Mean?!?!!!?

Colleges and Universities A-Z Princeton University
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<p>Look, Princeton is listed under the schools that are "undecided" in terms of how they will look at the writing section. this is weird, because other selective schools like HARVARD say that writing section will be completely EQUAL to the CR and MATH section!!</p>

<p>KAPLAN EXCLUSIVE: New SAT Scoring Policies from 374 Top Schools
In evaluating scores for the new SAT, the following schools plan to give the Writing section More Weight, Equal Weight, Lesser Weight, or No Weight relative to the Math and Critical Reading sections this year, or else are Undecided. </p>

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More Weight</p>

<p>Loyola University New Orleans</p>

<p>Equal Weight</p>

<p>Alma College
Barnard College
Boston College
Boston University
Brown University
Carleton College
Colorado College
Concord College
Dartmouth College
Drury University
Duke University
Emerson College
Fisk University
Fordham University
Gordon College
Grinnell College
Guilford College
Hartwick College
Harvard University/Harvard College
John Brown University
Lawrence University
Lycoming College
Manhattan College
Marist College
Merrimack College
Pomona College
Providence College
Regis College
Rhode Island School of Design
Rice University
Russell Sage College
Salisbury State University
Seattle University
Stanford University
Towson University
Tufts University
University of California
University of Hartford
University of Hawaii, Manoa
University of Missouri, Kansas City
University of North Dakota
University of Pennsylvania
University of Richmond
University of the Pacific
University of Vermont
University of Virginia
University of Wisconsin, Madison
Valparaiso University
Vanderbilt University
Wabash College
Washington University
Webster University
Wellesley College
Westminster College </p>

<p>Lesser Weight</p>

<p>Allegheny College
Augustana College
Beloit College
Bennington College
Brandeis University
Bridgewater State College
Bryant College
Bryn Mawr College
Canisius College
Carnegie Mellon University
Case Western Reserve University
Centre College
Clarkson University
Colgate University
College of Charleston
College of William and Mary
College of Wooster
Columbia University, Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science
Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art
Cornell College
Dickinson College
Eckerd College
Elizabethtown College
Flagler College
Fresno Pacific University
Hampden-Sydney College
High Point University
Hofstra University
Illinois Wesleyan University
Johnson C. Smith University
Lehigh University
Luther College
Marlboro College
Marquette University
Marymount Manhattan College
Mercer University
Messiah College
Michigan State University
Middlebury College
Millsaps College
Monmouth College
Monmouth University
Muhlenberg College
Nebraska Wesleyan University
New York University
North Carolina State University
Northwestern University
Ohio Wesleyan University
Pacific Lutheran University
Pacific Union College
Point Loma Nazarene University
Purdue University, West Lafayette
Saint Olaf College
Skidmore College
Smith College
Suffolk University
Susquehanna University
Truman State University
Tulane University
Union College
United States Merchant Marine Academy
University of Florida
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
University of Notre Dame
University of Redlands
University of Southern California
University of the South
University of Washington
Ursinus College
Vassar College
Villanova University
Virginia Military Institute
Washington and Jefferson College
Westmont College
Whitman College
William Jewell College
Wofford College
Yeshiva University </p>

<p>No Weight</p>

<p>Adelphi University
Alcorn State University
Alfred University
Arizona State University
Auburn University
Augustana College
Azusa Pacific University
Baldwin-Wallace College
Ball State University
Baylor University
Berea College
Biola University
Bowie State University
Bowling Green State University
Bradley University
Brigham Young University
Bucknell University
California Polytechnic State University
California State University, Long Beach
Cedarville University
Chatham College
Chicago State University
Christopher Newport University
City University of New York, Queens College
Clark University
Clayton College & State University
Clemson University
Coker College
College of New Jersey
College of the Ozarks
Concordia University, Irvine
DePaul University
Drake University
Drexel University
Earlham College
Elmira College
Elon University
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Arizona
Florida Institute of Technology
Florida International University
Florida Southern College
Franklin and Marshall College
Freed-Hardeman University
Furman University
George Mason University
Georgetown University
Georgia Institute of Technology
Gettysburg College
Gonzaga University
Goucher College
Grove City College
Gustavus Adolphus College
Hamilton College
Hanover College
Hastings College
Hendrix College
Hobart and William Smith Colleges
Hope College
Houghton College
Humboldt State University
Huntingdon College
Illinois Institute of Technology
Iowa State University
Juniata College
Kalamazoo College
Kansas Wesleyan University
Kenyon College
La Salle University
Lebanon Valley College
Louisiana State University and A&M College
Loyola College
Loyola University of Chicago
Lynchburg College
Mary Baldwin College
Mary Washington College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
McKendree College
Miami University
Millersville University of Pennsylvania
Millikin University
Milwaukee School of Engineering
Morehead State University
New College of the University of South Florida
New Jersey Institute of Technology
Niagara University
North Georgia College and State University
Northwestern College of Iowa
Ohio Northern University
Ohio State University
Oklahoma State University
Oral Roberts University
Ouachita Baptist University
Pace University, New York
Pennsylvania State University, University Park
Pitzer College
Polytechnic University
Quinnipiac University
Randolph-Macon Woman's College
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Rider University
Roanoke College
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Rowan University
Sacred Heart University
Saint Augustine's College
Saint Bonaventure University
Saint Louis College of Pharmacy
Saint Vincent College
Salem College
Samford University
San Diego State University
Scripps College
Seton Hall University
Siena College
Southern University and A&M College
Spring Hill College
Springfield College
State University of New York, Albany
State University of New York, Binghamton University
State University of New York, New Paltz
State University of New York, Stony Brook
State University of New York, University at Buffalo
Stevens Institute of Technology
Taylor University
Temple University
Texas A&M University
Transylvania University
Trinity International University
Trinity University
Union University
United States Air Force Academy
United States Military Academy, West Point
United States Naval Academy
University of Alabama, Huntsville
University of Dallas
University of Iowa
University of Maryland, College Park
University of Massachusetts, Boston
University of Massachusetts, Lowell
University of Miami
University of Michigan—Ann Arbor
University of Mississippi
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of Nebraska, Lincoln
University of New Hampshire
University of North Carolina—Chapel Hill
University of North Carolina, Asheville
University of Northern Colorado
University of Portland
University of Puget Sound
University of Rhode Island
University of Rochester
University of Saint Thomas
University of Scranton
University of South Carolina Columbia
University of Texas, Austin
University of the Sciences in Philadelphia
University of Wisconsin, Eau Claire
University of Wisconsin, Superior
Voorhees College
Wake Forest University
Washington College
Wells College
Wesleyan College
Western Maryland College
Western Washington University
Wittenberg University
Yale University
York College of Pennsylvania </p>

<p>Undecided</p>

<p>Agnes Scott College
Albertson College of Idaho
Albion College
Babson College
Butler University
California Institute of Technology
Catholic University of America
Champlain College
Chapman University
Claremont McKenna College
Coe College
Columbia University/Columbia College
Connecticut College
Cornell University
Davidson College
Denison University
Drew University
Emory University
Fairfield University
Florida Atlantic University
Geneva College
Georgetown College
Hamline University
Harding University
Harvey Mudd College
Hillsdale College
Ithaca College
Johns Hopkins University
Lafayette College
Lewis and Clark College
Loyola Marymount University
Lynn University
Lyon College
Macalester College
Mills College
Oberlin College
Princeton University
Roberts Wesleyan College
Rust College
Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey—New Brunswick region
Saint Michael's College
San Francisco State University
Spalding University
University of Central Florida
University of Chicago
University of Colorado, Boulder
University of Denver
University of Georgia
University of Maryland, Baltimore County
University of New Mexico
University of San Diego
University of Tennessee
University of Tulsa
Wartburg College
Whitworth College
Willamette University
Williams College
Worcester Polytechnic Institute

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<p>hell, i hope they all give the writing section at least the same weight, lol</p>

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<p>its kinda weird how any institution can give the writing section more weight at this point</p>

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<p>Well, even if they don't weight the writing section at all, they will still weight your score out of 2400...getting a perfect 800+800+800=2400 is still better than getting a 1600+690=2290, for example</p>

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<p>thats true, but what we're talking about is the difference between a 2250(800M, 800V, 650W) and 2250(800M, 650V, 800W)</p>

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<p>Well everyone knows the first one is better</p>

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<p>Not for the first two groups of schools on the list..</p>

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<p>an admissions officer will nonetheless pick the first applicant, instinctively.</p>

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<p>haha well that's good for me then.</p>

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<p>[to gxing] Untrue.</p>

<p>Admissions officers don't work on instincts, many have guidelines, and the chance is that if they announce that they're going to weight the writing section at an equal par with another section, they're going to do it.</p>

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<p>There isn't much room for instinct because no one admissions officer makes a final decision...it's always a group decision. And if everyone in the group has the same instinct it means that there is a good reason behind it.</p>

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<p>It depends. If I were an adcom looking at BSE candidates, I'd take the 800W kid because writing is extremely important in the science world - you get some of the most accurately phrased writing from scientists. Knowing the 'author's intent' is pointless for a scientist because research papers don't have subtle hints or any crap like that.</p>

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<p>The SAT Writing does not test writing ability though, it merely tests grammar. I seriously don't think someone who scores 800 on it is automatically a better "writer."</p>

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<p>Wow Yale doesn't look at the writing at all... cool!</p>

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<p>lol, that is bad for me</p>

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<p>windslicer, college admissions officers are human too. assuming two applicants are equal in all other respects, the writing score would be the deciding factor, especially if the difference was significant.</p>

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<p>i actually asked a princeton admissions officer. she was deliberately vague but the message that got across was that as of 2008 princeton definetly cares about the writing section..but maybe a little bit less than CR and math</p>

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<p>gxing, TWO APPLICANTS CAN NEVER BE SIMILAR IN ALL OTHER ASPECTS because the essays/recommendation letters/interview/extracurriculars will set them apart. That's why these things are labeled as subjective factors and you can't really do any comparison with them beyond the objective data.</p>

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<p>harvard2727, class of 2008?? so beginning next year, the writing section will count?</p>

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<p>evilasiandictator, let me clarify what i said. if the committee had to choose between two candidates that were equally qualified, and then the SAT score was taken into account, the one with the significantly higher writing score would get in.</p>

<p>i think we can all agree that having a higher score can only help you, while having a lower one can, at best, be of no consequence.</p>