<p>"Yale received a record 22,528 applications for the class of 2012 this year, the admissions office announced Wednesday."</p>
<p>This represents a 16.6% increase over last year, and a 6.8% increase over the number of applications two years ago.</p>
<p>See article at <a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/23103%5B/url%5D">http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/23103</a></p>
<p>May be heading for an 8% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>i thought actually that Yale would have reached Harvard's number, but surprisingly it didn't even come close..</p>
<p>I think that Harvard's numbers jumped so much because they came out with their financial aid changes prior to the application deadline whereas Yale came out with specifics later.</p>
<p>Most of who applied EA at Yale also applied Harvard.</p>
<p>First of all, quality is much more important than quantity. </p>
<p>Second, also look at undergraduate applicants per spot in the class: Even though H had more applicants, Yale had 17.3 apps per spot this year, Harvard had 16.5 per spot this year. </p>
<p>Granted, Harvard has closed the gap somewhat this year, either because people have looked more carefully at their chances of getting in or the H financial aid announcement caused a "surge" this year - the figures a couple years ago were about 16 per spot at Yale and 12 per spot at Harvard.</p>
<p>Just for comparison's sake, the figures for law school last time I checked were about 25 apps per spot for Yale Law and 14 apps per spot for Harvard Law. In other words getting into HY undergrad is getting to be almost as hard as getting into Yale Law.</p>
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<p>By this statement you claim that the Yale applicant pool is stronger than the Harvard applicant pool? Any hard facts behind that assertion or merely throwing around words?</p>
<p>posterX, if you are questioning Harvard's applicants' quality, don't...i can tell you for a fact that all of the ppl who got accepted from my country at yale EA are all applying to Harvard and/or Princeton..so quality is so not the issue...i tend to find more plausible 2blue's justification...it's got to do with finaid</p>
<p>Ambient, I didn't make that claim, and it would be impossible to prove given that the quality of applicants at both H and Y is fairly similar by any available measure. Even if you tried to show a difference, it would depend on what you considered as the "average quality" applicant by some statistical measure, and it would be limited by the available statistics. What I did mean was that the number of applicants has little bearing on the quality of the pool. Just about any comprehensive measure of selectivity, which takes multiple statistical data into account, would show Harvard and Yale (and maybe Caltech) at the very top of the list, even though they might receive fewer applications than, say, NYU or Cornell does.</p>
<p>My calculations give an acceptance rate of 8.4% at Yale this year. </p>
<p>((5,300/4)*.7)/(22528)=.084 </p>
<p>Class size times yield rate divided by number of applicants</p>
<p>The other Ivies are going to see a drop, too. According to my makeshift formula, Harvard will only accept 7.7% this year, and Princeton will drop to 8.6%. Yikes!</p>
<p>*BTW, these numbers are based on some formula I just came up with, and I'm not sure how accurate my estimation of class size is... I just divided total undergrad enrollment by 4, lol.</p>
<p>I think HYP will be very conservative with their initial offers of admission and will rely much more heavily on the waitlist than in past years. This should create a lower admit rate than even accounting for the larger applicant pool would suggest.</p>
<p>i'm curious........let's say you're on a waitlist and they don't start drawing from that waitlist until may. who can take that chance considering the rest of the schools want to know by may 1st. princeton has come out and said they will draw heavily on the waitlist this year and i can see how that makes their numbers look good but unless by some miracle you hear early, how many are going to gamble those odds?</p>
<p>It's not really gambling with the odds. You send in an acceptance fee for another college and then just withdraw if you get in off the waitlist.</p>
<p>People withdraw their acceptances as late as August if they get into the school of their dreams off the waitlist. I would think much of the waitlist activity will happen in May. Some colleges will not require any form of deposit by May 1, others will. Point being, unless you get in somewhere ED, you're not bound to attend the school you initially accept. They know waitlists exist and you can withdraw acceptance and go elsewhere thereby opening a waitlist space at the school you intially accepted and so on.</p>
<p>does this mean that senior on a waitlist will have to do his best until the very last day of school? does those schools would want to see your final performance ( GPA ) before deciding who to take off the waitlist? is this correct?</p>
<p>thank you run and addict..........i was always curious how this worked.</p>
<p>wait a second?
it increased more from last year than it did from 2 years ago? does that mean last years applicant numbers were lower than two years ago?</p>
<p>JohnC--Yes. Two years ago Yale had the lowest admit rate in Ivy history. The following year applications dropped. One theory is that people were freaked out by the previous year's admissions results and figured it wasn't worth trying.</p>
<p>Is it possible that Yale's acceptance rate will actually go up? I'd expect Harvard's yield to go up with the financial aid announcement, and since a lot of Yale applicants also apply Harvard, more might choose Harvard.</p>
<p>um, did you not hear about the financial aid announcement that Yale made a couple weeks ago? It's just like Harvard's, except Yale aid goes up to people making $200,000.</p>