<p>For an international needing aid, is it harder for him to get into Yale or Dartmouth? Yale has a lower admission rate but it's need blind while Dartmouth is the opposite (higher admit rate, not need blind towards internationals).. Anyone?</p>
<p>Yale has actively been reaching out to internationals, as the need-based finaid for us testifies to. Dartmouth is almost as selective, but for internationals, the odds are much rougher.</p>
<p>Also, Yale is way way cooler and better and less jockey than D. If Dartmouth feels like a better fit for you, sure, go for it -- but I'd say Yale is your better bet, and definitely better choice. We have a very strong international community.</p>
<p>I'm also an international needing aid. And I absolutely love Yale. But I'm afraid it's too competitive for me to get in. I was thinking about applying SCEA to Yale next year. But now I'm considering applying ED to Penn although Penn is not need-blind. My stats aren't impressive. I have some kind of hook, but honestly... I don't want to waste my early application to a school which I think very unlikely to accept me. I'm not sure if it's easier for me to get in Penn though. I'm still pondering over Yale EA or Penn ED. </p>
<p>Gosh I've been in love with Yale for years (I even had a thread on CC about my love for Yale). But I've managed to love another school just as much.</p>
<p>If you need aid, don't make the mistake of applying ED to any school that is not need-blind. Even if it is need-blind I would advise not to apply ED because maybe they won't consider your financial need in the same way as you. An EA school would be ok, so that you can later compare financial offers. I think it's better to be accepted regularly with the amount you need instead of being accepted early and not satisfied.</p>
<p>I understand the drawback of applying for FinAid ED. Yet most top school have need-based FinAid policy. So although they aren't need-blind, they will either reject you or provide you with SUFFICIENT aid. I'm not the kind of students who like to compare the aid funds. I will attend a college as long as I can afford it (with the assitance of FinAid). I don't think I would be disappointed with the aid so long as I declare the needed amount of aid sufficiently.</p>
<p>The point is: In my case (Penn ED or Yale EA) and in the OP's case (Dartmouth ED or Yale EA), which one is a safer bet for us (in terms of admittance chance), provided that we're both internationals applying for FinAids?</p>
<p>Yale, handsdown! They are serious about amping up the international student body on campus.</p>
<p>Hmm.. for my case it's not ED v EA.. I mean regular decision.. Even though I am likely to apply to both.. I just want to know..</p>
<p>FYI 6y6y6, I didn't care about the aid issue and EDed Columbia.. (i think my chance is 0.3% but I didn't care)</p>
<p>and I know of a person from my country/high school (a class older than me) who was by no means impressive (SAT wise, EC wise.. anything wise compared to ANY applicants from China/India) but got admitted to UPenn regular and his classmate(even far less impressive than him) was waitlisted..WHY? they could pay full fees!! and they came from my country (never represented there at UPenn)..</p>
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I am pointing out two things above.. NRC (Never Represented Country, I coined this term) is a BIG THING for UPenn (and most colleges I suppose) {IMO, IMO ONLY- they waitlisted the other girl just because in case he decided not to attend, they could admit the other girl so that my country is still represented at UPenn.. and IN fact they were just competing with EACH OTHER) and if you are both another NRCer, and happened to be the only one from your country applying to UPEnn, ED is the way to go IF YOU LOVE THAT SCHOOL.. otherwise.. it'll be tough.. Hopefully I wasn't ********ting.. take my advice with a grain of salt tho.. (and remember they're paying full fees tho)</p>
<p>Penn is already very diverse. It's a great challenge for me trying to figure out which country you're from, jhl. An NRC? :D My country would be under-represented, I'm afraid there're already a few there, esp at Wharton.</p>
<p>Yeah so they're paying full fees. I think even if you're from an over-represented country, the fact that you're paying full fees will give you a great great advantage.</p>
<p>Being from an "NRC" wasn't the main hook for your friend. It was the money. So sad but true!</p>
<p>NRC was huge.. There were many more paying the full fees from the likes of Singapore and Hong Kong, even Korea who were very likely MORE qualified than them.. but coming from an NRC gave my seniors a huge boost.. so both factors were huge.. Imagine UPenn bragging.. this year we have 'X'an represented in the class of 2011 and now there's Y+1 (over the years Y will become a huge number) countries represented at UPEnn..</p>
<p>Well, FYI, I EDed Columbia but my country is not an NRC there anymore .. One went there about 10 years ago.. But it doesn't matter..(I think my chances would have been 3 %.. but since it's not an NRC, they're now 0.3%.. I'll wait and see..)</p>
<p>If you ever find out where I'm from, don't post on this board..haha</p>
<p>Yale is cool too.. they even pay for you to go back to your country during the summers Yale</a> Daily News - Yale reforms financial aid policy One trip EVERY YEAR.. Pretty cool.. ** I would prefer to do research during the summers though..</p>
<p>Not sure about the trip home. I know they do let us stay at hotels or apartments during the winter break if we can't afford to go home, and that they used to simply pay for a plane ticket before the hotel solution was set up. They also give an approx. $200 vacation allowance. I'll check and see, that would be great if they actually fund our tickets home!</p>
<p>^The link said so.. I'm pretty sure it's true.. You're are a Yalie so you can definitely verify for us..</p>
<p>What is coming up here? Yale actually pays for us to return home during the summer, and to stay there during the winter? I mean... what the heck!!! It was hard enough for me trying to love Penn as much as I've loved Yale. Oh noooo why is Yale so damned kool?</p>
<p>I think they dunno how to spend their ever expanding 23 billion endowment.. and probably this is a good way to beat Harvard for top international students.. </p>
<p>Maybe Harvard will give international students first class airfares? Or a class beyond first?.. haha</p>