Yale ED/Stanford EA

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hey,
Could you guys evaluate my chances at those two applications?
Asian-American Junior Male</p>

<p>I went to two high schools: one for 9th-10th, one for 11th-12th.
The second school is a consortium school established by the state of Oklahoma for students who demonstrate aptitude in the sciences and... blahblahblah. If you wanna know more about it go here: <a href="http://www.ossm.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.ossm.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>-=Scores=-
SAT I (new): 2380 (800m, 800v, 780w)
SAT II's: None :(, taking them this Saturday (Math IIc, Physics, Chemistry)
ACT: 35
AP Calculus BC 5
AP Calculus AB 5
AP European History 5
AP Chemistry TBA
AP Physics C (Mech. and E&M) TBA
GPA: 4.0 u.w.
Noteworthy Classes: Multivariate Calculus, Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, Modern Physics I & II, Organic Chemistry I & II</p>

<p>-=EC's=-(Old High School)
-Editor-in-Chief of School Newspaper (9th, 10th)
-Vice-President of Key Club (9th, 10th)
-Vice President of Students United for Nature Club (9th, 10th)
-Founder of Young Engineers of America (9th, 10th)
-Student Council Senator (10th)
-Hugh O. Brien Youth Leadership Ambassador (10th)
-Blood Bank Volunteer (~180hrs) (9th, 10th)
-Basketball (9th)
-JV Track (10th)
-JV Football (10th)</p>

<p>-=EC's=-(New High School)-->(Has no clubs, no sports, only StuCo) :\
-Student Council Senator (11th) (Our StuCo has 3 girls, 3 guys as Senators; no President, Secretary, VP, etc...)
-Mentorship (Research in a Biochemistry Lab at the University of Oklahoma Sciences Center)
-High School Summer Science Research Program @ Baylor University (Research in a Biochemistry Lab at Baylor University)
-Nat'l Merit SemiFinalist. (Cut-Off in Oklahoma never gets above 210, so I'm lucky) :)</p>

<p>-=Miscellaneous Stuff=-
-Church Youth Group Music Leader (10th, 11th)
-Piano (Played for 10 years, no big awards though)
-State 1st Place Health Feature
-Oklahoma Education Association Award</p>

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<p>It's been a while since I've seen a normal person applying for Ivy's...You have solid ecs, good grades, and a very nice SAT score. If you were applying for any other school, I'd say you're in; but at the Ivy level it's hard to say. You're have a decent-good chance at Yale or Stanford. I can't give you a yes or no, but I would definitely apply.</p>

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<p>Asian hurts you. Oklahoma helps some. Scores are great if you can back them up with SAT IIs. Plenty of ECs, maybe too many. Aim for quality and leadership. Answer the question, 'what did I accomplish in this leadership role?' Please, please find at least a few safeties and matches. Even for you, HYPS are lottery schools. Go read the boards for these schools on April 1 this year and count the 1550+ SATs that were rejected.</p>

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<p>You look like one of the stronger applicants, however, your EC's are the "common mistake" EC, which means they have no focus point. Engineering, journalism...but otherwise, they are very solid ECs nonetheless.</p>

<p>Except, I'm just wondering how you were able to get so many leadership positions that others take close to 4 years to get, with awards and getting to know the teachers for a long time. Being an EIC for my newspaper, for example, I have no idea how a sophomore would be an EIC, unless you founded the newspaper? Or, no members? Remember that in this case, you obviously did not have the responsibility that an EIC with a staff of 50 would have had, so it would decrease the "potency" of your leadership title. I'm hoping you did something excellent with your titles, not just held them above your head.</p>

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<p>My staff had about 20 kids. The paper won several awards from Oklahoma Interscholastic Press Association. The advisor really liked me, so she let me be Editor in Chief.</p>

<p>All my Leadership positions (cept EIC which was an appointed position) resulted from elections that I got a bunch of people to go to. I really don't want to rely on my ECs that much; they are not concrete like SAT/ACT scores and grades. They only show that I am able to effectively deal with people and that those people are willing to place me in a position of leadership. I did do significant work for all the clubs that I held office in, quite a lot for only 2 years.</p>

<p>I knew I'd probably end up going to the Consortium school which had no clubs, so I wanted to get some leadership on my resume before I left after Sophomore year. </p>

<p>It only took me two years to get these leadership positions because I was forced by necessity to get them in that short amount of time.</p>

<p>Any other advice?</p>

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<p>"Asian hurts you."
It is just hard for me to grasp the idea that hardworking people are penalized for something they can't control.</p>

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<p>I guess it's pretty unfair; but no one said the world had to be fair.</p>

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<p>Yale has EA.</p>

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<p>I think the way to look at it is that no school owes anyone admission no matter what their stats are. It's not unfair. These are private schools that get to choose the composition of each class. If you fit in the box of what they are looking for this year, you're the lucky winner, If not, your strong stats will take you to another fine school.</p>

<p>All you can do is throw your hat into the ring and try not to let your ego go with it. They turn down more people with your stats than they take.</p>

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<p>my school's pretty competitive:
Class of '05
2 accepted to Harvard
5 accepted to MIT
3 accepted to Stanford
1 accepted to Caltech
and some other high caliber schools that I can't name off the top of my head.
I'd like to hear from some of the people that got accepted to Yale or Stanford and see how their stats looked when they applied.</p>

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<p>Go to pr stats . com and you'll find all the comparisons you need for this year and past years.</p>