<p>How many more forms of competition can we create between Yale and Harvard you ask??? Well, who has the most BLOOD of course!</p>
<p>(read to the end)</p>
<p>"the inaugural Yale-Harvard Blood Drive Challenge..."
hmm sounds fun. I love a good challenge.</p>
<p>what are we gonna come up with next? A Yale-Harvard Who Can Donate the Most Bone Marrow Challenge??</p>
<p>no i think maybe the Yale-Harvard Kidney Donation Challenge is up next :p</p>
<p>sperm donation</p>
<p>Sperm donation...yeah absolutely ivyboy, thats perfect! yeah of course that whats gonna happen next.</p>
<p>lol I think it's a good idea (the blood drive, not the sperm thing >.<)</p>
<p>Here's an exerpt from a recent Yale Herald editorial on the topic:</p>
<p>Time for Yale to question rivalry
BY COLLEEN KINDER</p>
<p>Let's be honest: President Richard Levin's, GRD '74, speeches usually put us to sleep. If there was ever a moment when Levin's oration evoked a powerful response from the student body, it was in 1997, when he said two words that caused an entire auditorium of Yalies to go absolutely berserk: Harvard sucks.</p>
<p>You can find these words anywhere on the Yale campus. They are plastered onto bulletin boards, etched into wooden desks, and printed on t-shirts. We have made them the mantra of our college years, and by now, "sucks" follows "Harvard" in common conversation as easily as it does "Bush."</p>
<p>We students are not the only ones guilty of allowing Harvard to obsess our minds. The Administration seems haunted by its influence. Policies are changed not because change is long overdue, but because the other Ivies, namely Harvard, are changing theirs. These changes may be necessary to stay competitive with our rivals and to attract the best students, but no one can deny that comparison is often taken too far. We evaluate every miniscule facet of Yale life in light of Harvard; perhaps one of the most ridiculous examples is a 1998 Yale Daily News article entitled, "Harvard beats Yale in the race for two-ply toilet paper" [YDN, 1/27/98].</p>
<p>I have never understood why Yale feels a compulsion to constantly compare itself to Harvard. When I came to Yale, I first assumed that the Harvard obsession originated in bitterness at being rejected from the school. But I came to realize that most people chose Yale over Harvard because of genuine preference, not by default.</p>
<p>So if it's not bitterness, what is behind our fierce anti-Harvard sentiment? Trying to figure it out, I thought of a question someone in my hometown once asked me: "Why would you go to Yale if you could go to Harvard?" This question infuriated me, because I knew he had never stepped on either campus, nor did he have any concept of what either school had to offer. Somehow, most likely by virtue of age, Harvard has been ingrained in the American mind as No. 1. Levin, our skillfull orator, put it best when he said, "Harvard deserves its high ranking only when judged by the silly criteria of small-minded people." Yale didn't make it onto the Saved By the Bell episode when Zack Morris was being hunted down by top colleges. Harvard did (in the form of Max, dressed up in a suit and with a bad accent). Public opinion constantly second-guesses the greatness of the school we know to be the greatest. The result: an inferiority complex that manifests itself in intense hatred of Harvard.</p>
<p>It is tempting to counter doubts about Yale's status by tearing down Harvard's. But frankly, adopting a "Harvard Sucks" mantra makes us look lame more than anything else. It is easy to mistake an inferiority complex for inferiority. In an editorial entitled "Always Second Best," the Crimson applauded us for "proudly carrying the banner of inferiority all these years" [Crimson, 11/19/99].</p>
<p>It is also tempting to point out all the ways Yale is better than Harvard. But it is time we broke out of the confining comparison trap and started proclaiming our merits simply by proclaiming our merits. For example, at the Tercentennial celebration at the Yale Bowla definitive moment of our school's gloryI didn't hear the H-word once. We ultimately do ourselves a better service by appreciating what we have, rather than comparing ourselves to what we chose not to have."</p>
<p>I think Yale feels the need to compete not because people actually feel inferior, but it's a way for Yalies to band together. And they're used to it...it's almost like peer pressure. Generations of yalies have said Harvard sucks and so it's hard to stop, although I agree, it would be a lot better if they did.</p>
<p>the yale-harvard rivalry reminds me a lot of the red sox-yankees rivalry (excluding this season. argh!), especially with the whole "harvard sucks!" / "yankees suck!" thing. bostonians love their version of the chant as much if not more than yalies love theirs.</p>
<p>I think Yalies have a lot more class than Red Sox fans though (can you tell I'm a yankees fan? lol) Rex Sox fans just seem really immature...and they always make ridiculous taunts and claims that they can't live up to.</p>
<p>it is a good point, and not only yale is guilty of obsessing about harvard. when i visited columbia and dartmouth, they kept mentioning it too. but harvard never mentions those schools.</p>
<p>it was off-putting to hear the yale tour guide stress about why yale is, allegedly, better than harvard. both are good schools, and each has its own strengths, but it gets dull when the two are constantly compared.</p>
<p>whichever school someone prefers, go right ahead, but enough already. it may be a long-held tradition, it may be a form of fun, but it is pathetic to keep digging up new ways to renew the flames of competition.</p>
<p>There was a great story along these lines in the Berkeley student paper a few years ago, showing that there's usually more hostility shown by the "lower-ranking" school in these rivalries - whether its Stanford/Cal, Harvard/Yale, Princeton/Penn or whatever.</p>
<p>He talked about Penn fans screaming "Princeton Sucks!" and the Princeton fans reaction as "whatever, Penn."</p>
<p>He also notes that Palo Alto has plenty of "Harvard: the Stanford of the East" t-shirts, and Durham has "Harvard: Duke of the North" t-shirts, but you don't see the counterparts in Cambridge.</p>
<p>I like to tease Yalies that their obsession with Harvard dates back to Yale's founding, when a bunch of grim, hardline Puritan clerics merely wanted a school that was "not Godless Harvard." Just before Yale was founded, Harvard rejected the fearsome Cotton Mather for the presidency, and chose ... a <em>lawyer</em> instead!</p>
<p>Mather never forgave Harvard, and was actually the guy who solicited the money from an aging robber baron, Eli Yale, to get the struggling school out of hock, by appealing to his vanity and - in effect - selling the "naming rights" to the place. </p>
<p>Harvard's standards have always seemed to be internally generated, whereas Yale seems, since time immemorial, to have used Harvard as the benchmark in all things.</p>
<p>My favorite shirt that I've seen is in maize and blue and says Harvard: The Michigan of the East.</p>
<p>Harvard will never be able to top the prank that happened at the Harvard-Yale game last November: check out <a href="http://www.harvardsucks.org%5B/url%5D">www.harvardsucks.org</a></p>
<p>I personally do not mind rivalries and think that they are a healthy way to increase school spirit instead of hatred for the other school.</p>
<p>There are many schools who see themselves as Harvard's "rivals" - to the point where they refer to themselves as the "Harvard of the West", or the Harvard of the South", etc., etc.</p>
<p>HARVARD OF THE WEST Aspirants:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ku.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.ku.edu/</a> (Kansas state-Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/01/murphy.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/01/murphy.htm</a> (Stanford: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.citypaper.com/2001-03-28/upper.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.citypaper.com/2001-03-28/upper.html</a> (UCLA- Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v42/n12/stateadm.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v42/n12/stateadm.html</a> (Stanford: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tsl.pomona.edu/01/0302/opinions/%5B/url%5D">http://www.tsl.pomona.edu/01/0302/opinions/</a> (Harvard: Pomona of the East t-shirt message)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ascho.wpafb.af.mil/Foulois/chap9.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.ascho.wpafb.af.mil/Foulois/chap9.htm</a> (Antioch: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloggingnetwork.com/Blogs/Blog.aspx/bunnyblog/s10%5B/url%5D">http://www.bloggingnetwork.com/Blogs/Blog.aspx/bunnyblog/s10</a> (ASU: the Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://tspweb02.tsp.utexas.edu/webarchive/03-22-01/2001032209_s02_Collins.html%5B/url%5D">http://tspweb02.tsp.utexas.edu/webarchive/03-22-01/2001032209_s02_Collins.html</a> (Stanford: Harvard of West Coast)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/pubrel/trojan_family/summer01/Sample/TrojanFamily.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.usc.edu/dept/pubrel/trojan_family/summer01/Sample/TrojanFamily.html</a> (USC: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://69.57.157.207/issues/2.3.99/edit.html%5B/url%5D">http://69.57.157.207/issues/2.3.99/edit.html</a> (Michigan: Harvard of the Midwest)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nd.edu/%7Eafreddos/papers/zwick.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.nd.edu/~afreddos/papers/zwick.htm</a> (Notre Dame: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.du.edu/dumagazine/responses.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.du.edu/dumagazine/responses.html</a> (Denver: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.barzey.com/archives/000628.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.barzey.com/archives/000628.html</a> (Michigan: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://ns.trails.net/smp/history.html%5B/url%5D">http://ns.trails.net/smp/history.html</a> (St. Marys - Harvard of the West</p>
<p><a href="http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?endeca=1&sourceid=00395996645644787198&btob=Y&ean=9780736615235%5B/url%5D">http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?endeca=1&sourceid=00395996645644787198&btob=Y&ean=9780736615235</a> (Stanford: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amis.org/pubs/newsletter/2003/v32no2/memoriam_young.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.amis.org/pubs/newsletter/2003/v32no2/memoriam_young.htm</a> (Victoria: Harvard of West</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kuhistory.com/%5B/url%5D">http://www.kuhistory.com/</a> (Kansas: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allegheny.edu/news1/releases/archives/000391.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.allegheny.edu/news1/releases/archives/000391.html</a> (Allegheny: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statenews.com/op_article.phtml?pk=6797%5B/url%5D">http://www.statenews.com/op_article.phtml?pk=6797</a> (Michigan: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctadams.com/gmorrisonaboutus.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ctadams.com/gmorrisonaboutus.html</a> (Linfield College: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://dynaweb.oac.cdlib.org:8088/dynaweb/uchist/public/dailybruin/dbvol37/@Generic__BookTextView/2808%5B/url%5D">http://dynaweb.oac.cdlib.org:8088/dynaweb/uchist/public/dailybruin/dbvol37/@Generic__BookTextView/2808</a> (UCLA: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://electronicintifada.net/resources/action/20010313.html%5B/url%5D">http://electronicintifada.net/resources/action/20010313.html</a> (Bir Zeit: Harvard of West Bank)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oakridger.com/stories/093097/opn_smyser.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.oakridger.com/stories/093097/opn_smyser.html</a> (Harvard: Stanford of East)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freep.com/news/education/um9_20010109.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.freep.com/news/education/um9_20010109.htm</a> (Michigan: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nascar.com/2001/NEWS/cnnsi/06/07/racing_religion_two/%5B/url%5D">http://www.nascar.com/2001/NEWS/cnnsi/06/07/racing_religion_two/</a> (San Diego State: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://members.aol.com/CpSpalding/San-Bartolo-History.html%5B/url%5D">http://members.aol.com/CpSpalding/San-Bartolo-History.html</a> (Bartlett College: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gibran_khalil_gibran/message/206%5B/url%5D">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gibran_khalil_gibran/message/206</a> (Boise State - Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnsportsnet.com/page.cfm?section=4953%5B/url%5D">http://www.msnsportsnet.com/page.cfm?section=4953</a> (West Va U. Harvard of West_</p>
<p><a href="http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/02/07/loc_ohiodate0207.html%5B/url%5D">http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/02/07/loc_ohiodate0207.html</a> (Case Western- Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://wchs8.com/newsroom/persons/ricklord.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://wchs8.com/newsroom/persons/ricklord.shtml</a> (ASU: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/1997/May-04-Sun-1997/opinion/5309147.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/1997/May-04-Sun-1997/opinion/5309147.html</a> (UNLV - Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.n6st.org/links.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.n6st.org/links.htm</a> (Harker: Harvard of West Coast)</p>
<p><a href="http://wildcat.arizona.edu/%7Ewildcat/papers/89/91/03_2_m.html%5B/url%5D">http://wildcat.arizona.edu/~wildcat/papers/89/91/03_2_m.html</a> (Arizona: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mscd.edu/%7Ethemet/archives/volume20/issue13/html/13news8.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.mscd.edu/~themet/archives/volume20/issue13/html/13news8.html</a> (Metro: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ucop.edu/lauc/research/benemann.doc%5B/url%5D">http://www.ucop.edu/lauc/research/benemann.doc</a> (Berkeley: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://starbulletin.com/1999/05/17/sports/story2.html%5B/url%5D">http://starbulletin.com/1999/05/17/sports/story2.html</a> (Hawaii: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.epersonae.com/snapping/archives/000033.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.epersonae.com/snapping/archives/000033.html</a> (UPS: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus/messages/4/8221.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus/messages/4/8221.html</a> (Claremont: Harvard of West Coast)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.utefans.net/basketball/2000/why_i_left_byu.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.utefans.net/basketball/2000/why_i_left_byu.html</a> (BYU: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://depts.washington.edu/%7Euweek/archives/1999.11.NOV_18/_article2.html%5B/url%5D">http://depts.washington.edu/~uweek/archives/1999.11.NOV_18/_article2.html</a> (U Washington: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://law.gonzaga.edu/alumni/fall02.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://law.gonzaga.edu/alumni/fall02.pdf</a> (Gonzaga: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/000595.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/000595.html</a> (GVSU: Harvard of West)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usu.edu/about/president/speeches/dwademacklecture-10-2-02.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.usu.edu/about/president/speeches/dwademacklecture-10-2-02.htm</a> (Utah State: Harvard of the West)</p>
<p>HARVARD OF THE SOUTH aspirants:</p>
<p><a href="http://listproc.ucdavis.edu/archives/banjo-l/log0006/0114.html%5B/url%5D">http://listproc.ucdavis.edu/archives/banjo-l/log0006/0114.html</a> (UD Davis)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emory.edu/SPOKE/subpages/past_issues/spare/harvard.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.emory.edu/SPOKE/subpages/past_issues/spare/harvard.html</a> (Emory)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.monteagle.homestead.com/whattosee.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.monteagle.homestead.com/whattosee.html</a> (University of the South</p>
<p><a href="http://www.student-athlete.net/Centre%20College%20HARVARD%20OF%20THE%20SOUTH.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.student-athlete.net/Centre%20College%20HARVARD%20OF%20THE%20SOUTH.pdf</a> (Centre College)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.neosoft.com/%7Esgriffin/houstonhistory/legacy/history6k.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.neosoft.com/~sgriffin/houstonhistory/legacy/history6k.htm</a> (Rice)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.setel.com/%7Ejohnpitt/cumbfalltr.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.setel.com/~johnpitt/cumbfalltr.html</a> (Vanderbilt)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ackland.org/visit/history.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ackland.org/visit/history.html</a> (Duke)</p>
<p><a href="http://is.rice.edu/%7Ebigfleet/hand/staff.html%5B/url%5D">http://is.rice.edu/~bigfleet/hand/staff.html</a> (Mississippi)</p>
<p><a href="http://education.guardian.co.uk/egweekly/story/0,5500,648487,00.html%5B/url%5D">http://education.guardian.co.uk/egweekly/story/0,5500,648487,00.html</a> Melbourne Australia)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/%7Ejlb103/religion.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.columbia.edu/~jlb103/religion.html</a> (U of Virginia)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.auburn.edu/administration/horizon/flynt.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.auburn.edu/administration/horizon/flynt.html</a> (Auburn)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.roman-feuilleton.com/pinworm/dec28b.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.roman-feuilleton.com/pinworm/dec28b.htm</a> (Tulane)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback/99-09-Fall/99-10-27/op-ed3.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback/99-09-Fall/99-10-27/op-ed3.html</a> (U Maryland)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spartanburg-sc.com/%5B/url%5D">http://www.spartanburg-sc.com/</a> (Wofford)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alligator.org/edit/news/issues/stories/030605enrollment.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.alligator.org/edit/news/issues/stories/030605enrollment.html</a> (U of Florida)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alligator.org/edit/news/issues/stories/030605enrollment.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.alligator.org/edit/news/issues/stories/030605enrollment.html</a> (Livingstone)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gsu.edu/%7Ewwwexa/news/archive/general/01_hedgesrel.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.gsu.edu/~wwwexa/news/archive/general/01_hedgesrel.htm</a> (Georgia State)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.literarytraveler.com/fall/midwest/larsen.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.literarytraveler.com/fall/midwest/larsen.htm</a> (Fisk)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hamptonu.edu/News_Publications/2001_02_High_School_Day.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.hamptonu.edu/News_Publications/2001_02_High_School_Day.html</a> (Hampton U.)</p>
<p><a href="http://writingcenter.gmu.edu/who/huan02.html%5B/url%5D">http://writingcenter.gmu.edu/who/huan02.html</a> (Wm and Mary)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alligator.org/edit/issues/00-fall/001016/b03miller16.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.alligator.org/edit/issues/00-fall/001016/b03miller16.htm</a> (SMU)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/sports/fans/6771103.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/sports/fans/6771103.htm</a> (Kentucky)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atlantahapps.com/Johntolbertsjournal_07_14.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.atlantahapps.com/Johntolbertsjournal_07_14.htm</a> (Moorehouse)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.berry.edu/stulife/carrier/backissues/spring2001/2-22/opletter3.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.berry.edu/stulife/carrier/backissues/spring2001/2-22/opletter3.html</a> (Berry)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ciaa2003.com/pdfs/ciaa04_glance.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.ciaa2003.com/pdfs/ciaa04_glance.pdf</a> (Bowie State)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/680ulsjp.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/680ulsjp.asp</a> (Florida State)</p>
<p><a href="http://people.hsc.edu/students/hunleyk/%5B/url%5D">http://people.hsc.edu/students/hunleyk/</a> (Hampton-Sydney)</p>
<p>Whoaa
I get your point; that is a huge list.</p>
<p>I find it amusing. That's not all of them, really!</p>
<p>It's amusing that so many of these schools claim to be harvard level when they clearly are not.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with picking out a worthy role model to emulate!</p>
<p>Google listings:</p>
<p>"Harvard of the West" - 976</p>
<p>"Yale of the West": 97</p>
<p>"Harvard of the South" - 1,310</p>
<p>"Yale of the South" - 19</p>
<p>it never fails to amuse me</p>
<p>one minor, irrelevant error:
<a href="http://www.ku.edu%5B/url%5D">http://www.ku.edu</a>
is not Kansas State...it is the University of Kansas
Wildcats suck!
Rock Chalk Jayhawk Go KU!!! (Is it obvious I grew up there?)</p>