<p>i wouldnt worry too much about something minor like the toefl if your language ability is apparent.</p>
<p>I know many students from China who, though their English ability isn't so good, score extraordinarily high (even 800) on the SAT Verbal just by memorizing word lists. That certainly says something about the SATs!</p>
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I know many students from China who, though their English ability isn't so good, score extraordinarily high (even 800) on the SAT Verbal just by memorizing word lists. That certainly says something about the SATs!
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<p>Wow! Does that really happen? Because it didnt work for my friends, not even the ones who memorized all 5000 words from the Barron's Word List :eek:</p>
<p>I'm sorry, what I said earlier should have been "I know OF a FEW students . . ."</p>
<p>I guess it works for some people and not for others, but the fact is that I DO know, and know of, students who weren't so fluent in English and yet got really high verbal scores.</p>
<p>OK yeah I guess it would work for some people...it just doesnt seem too likely though</p>
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Yes it does. Ask callthecops - he knows a korean guy who "can't speak two straight sentences in English, but got an 800."</p>
<p>its happened in the school where I am. I know a guy whos spoken english is atrocious but pulled off an 800 on verbal. Those sort of people bomb the writing SAT II, like this guy. he got a 580. 580WR (5th try) vs. 800 verbal (2nd try)...it just goes to show that the SAT is only about memorization...nothing more</p>
<p>The five tries will look bad on his score report :eek:
btw how/where have you been lately?</p>
<p>I don't know whether I should be proud/ sad for Asians' super good memorization. But there are a bunch of Chinese guys cannot even speak a sentence in English, but still get perfect GRE and TOEFL scores.</p>
<p>well... in china, they're basically trained from an early age to memorize stuff, u have first graders who basically memorize pages and pages of essays from their textbook for homework, so the verbal sat tends to be "easier" with such an educational background - crazy but true</p>
<p>hmm...i dunno if it's an asian thing. i'm asian, and i can memorize stuff pretty easily, but i don't attribute it to my cultural brainwashing. all the preconceived ideas that asians are super smart seem mistaken to me. they are, perhaps, more ambitious on the average.</p>
<p>FYI: it seems like the information about the number of chinese applicants to yale last year was wrong (somebody wrote that "8 out of 32 applicants were admitted last year.") i recall there being somewhere over 40 just for early action, and there were undoubtedly many more than that for regular.</p>
<p>here are statistics gleaned from the yale facebook and the yale club of beijing: there are 11 mainland chinese students in the class of 2008. according to the yale club of beijing's website, the mainland china acceptance rate for the class was 1.9%. that would suggest that there were around 580 applicants, not 32, from the country.</p>
<p>yale club of beijing site: <a href="http://www.yaleclubbeijing.org/ASC.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yaleclubbeijing.org/ASC.html</a>.</p>
<p>Also off-tangent here: when I learned Mandarin, I was taught to memorize entire essays - my mum soon pulled me out of Mandarin classes when she found out.</p>
<p>wow, really? only 32 Chinese students in the WHOLE of China applied?
is that number correct, it seems strangely low.</p>
<p>YES! That number is correct.</p>
<p>5 years ago.</p>
<p>Well Played</p>
<p>Bad Necro.</p>