<p>Harvard seemed to take more heat.</p>
<p>Tulane students quoted in the YDN article said it best:
they agree that they should go back to Tulane & support both their college & New Orleans.</p>
<p>"Somebody needs to know everything about each college and university, but only about Harvard does everybody need to know something." </p>
<p>Clark Kerr</p>
<p>Xiggi:
ROTFL!</p>
<p>Swarthmore's Dean of Admissions had lunch with a Tulane student being sent home and a group of his friends to explain why it wouldn't be fair to let the student stay.</p>
<p>However, the Dean also advised the student that he could apply as a regular transfer student for fall 2006. Something tells me that there will be a lot of transfer applications being prepared at Tulane over the coming months.</p>
<p>Sounds like the Tulane students at Yale are much less whiny than the ones that ended up at Harvard. Good for them!</p>
<p>Its going to be a difficult transition - so a little whiny is not surprising. But I suspect that things will be better once they get rolling in January.</p>
<p>Also keep in mind each receiving college has to be supportive of the NO area colleges & universities,
and does not want to deprive them of the income from tuitions & the effort to "get back to normal" - opening schools/welcoming students back/holding classes/resuming careers & jobs for everyone employed by NO area colleges & businesses.</p>
<p>While it has never crossed my freshman son's mind--he says--to want to stay at Cornell rather than going back to Tulane, I wouldn't be critical of any NOLA area student this semester for being upset at any of the changes he or she has to continue going through. It's been a very difficult semester, and the difficulties and extra expenses aren't over yet. While college families affected by the storm haven't suffered nearly what regular residents in tha area have, I think a lot of people don't "get" how difficult this really has been--and still is, especially for people who don't have a lot of money.</p>
<p>In other words, it ain't no harm to moan!</p>
<p>I have to tell you...the title of this thread bothers me. NONE of these colleges is giving the NO students "the boot". They welcomed these students as visiting students so that they would not lose the opportunity to take classes in the fall semester due to the ravages of the hurricane. The deal all along was that the students would continue to pay tuition to their home school AND that the visiting status would end when the home school reopened. How fortunate for these displaced students that our institutions of higher education all over the country stepped up to the plate to help them. These NO schools are thankfully reopening. The students are not getting the boot. They are being asked to honor THEIR end of the agreement.</p>
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<p>Obviously this was intended as a somewhat satirical sendup of the Harvard problems. Sorry you lack a sense of humor Mr. Serious.</p>
<p>"The students are not getting the boot. They are being asked to honor THEIR end of the agreement."</p>
<p>And when exactly is Tulane going to honor their agreement? This school canceled classes and kept the money and then insists the only way you can get it back is to withdraw and forfeit uour scholarships or siy out a semster. The words honor and Tulane don't belong in the same sentence. The current administration is headed by a corrup, mendacious, blustering buffoon. The bottom line is these kids, especially the freshmen have been through a lot and now they are being treated like chattel and shipped down the river.</p>
<p>All the schools involved ought to be looking out for the best interests of the students first and the NO schools and city of New orleans second. Instead they have inverted their priorities. I applaud any kid who goes back to NOLA but at the same time I find no fault with any kid or family who puts their education, health, or personal finances first. Their will be plenty of helping hands for NOLA nobody should be forcing the unwilling to tote that barge or lift that bale.</p>
<p>Consider, however, that the schools that TEMPORARILY accepted the NOLA students have absolutely no moral obligation to let them stay. So if the students do not wish to return to Tulane, they will have to find somewhere to apply to for the second semester, and many of the schools that did let them come for one semester do not allow mid-year transfer. There is no reason to give preference to NOLA students over others.
Further, Tulane students were not deprived of an education for which they had paid. The colleges that accepted them did not charge them tuition; in so doing, they wanted to support Tulane and the other NOLA schools by letting them keep the tution monies already paid.</p>
<p>freestate - Tulane did not "cancel classes." Your next sentence is so convoluted, I can't figure out what you're saying. Your description of President Cowen is so offensive and inimical to what I, as a Tulane parent, have observed that it leaves me speechless.</p>
<p>If you are going to make these statements about Tulane and its administration, please be so kind as to identify the source of your information and your stake in the situation.</p>
<p>I'm with jmmom. What freestate has said is highly offensive to us as a family whose son was taken very good care of in a dangerous situation and is now being given an extra tuition-free semester after the spring term. This post sounds like some of the ugly stuff I've been reading on the blogs where people vent their spleen after having gone to state schools and become unhappy that they paid Tulane tuition even though they're getting Tuane credit for state school courses for one term. That's an issue those people need to deal with for themselves. I don't know whether that's the source of that poster's spleen, but that sort of unfounded personal attack certainly doesn't belong here.</p>
<p>"And when exactly is Tulane going to honor their agreement? This school canceled classes and kept the money and then insists the only way you can get it back is to withdraw and forfeit uour scholarships or siy out a semster. The words honor and Tulane don't belong in the same sentence. The current administration is headed by a corrup, mendacious, blustering buffoon. The bottom line is these kids, especially the freshmen have been through a lot and now they are being treated like chattel and shipped down the river."</p>
<p>Hmmm, let's examine Tulane "buffoonery:"</p>
<p>1) They evacuated all students, staff, and faculty to a place a safety two days in advance of the storm;</p>
<p>2) They arranged buses to then take those evacuated students to Dallas and Atlanta for flights home;</p>
<p>3) The biggest "buffoon" sat out the storm on his campus so he could report first hand on the damage;</p>
<p>4) A temp. office was set up in days, and parents, staff and faculty were kept informed on a daily basis about conditions and options for the Fall;</p>
<p>5) All students who wanted to attend elsewhere classes elsewhere were accommodated;</p>
<p>6) A free semester was added to accommodate students;</p>
<p>7) Salvage and restoration crews were on the ground at campus almost immediately after the storm;</p>
<p>8) Spring semester will happen on campus, with students from other NO based university students in attendance as quests.</p>
<p>So, as a Tulane parent as well, I hope that give that buffoon a lifetime contract.</p>
<p>And, to be fair: All of the university and colleges that opened their doors and hearts to N.O. and gulf-based students are to be commended for their efforts. Just as they are to be commended for honoring their agreement with the effected institutions by not poaching their students and faculty. If, at the end of the year, more than the usual numbers of these students apply to transfer, so be it. That is their right. But. at least it will come AFTER they have had a chance to go back to their campuses and see for themselves whether the place they choose still offers them the opportunities and amenities they hoped they would be getting.</p>
<p>And as an aside, as the parent of a Tulane student who spends 2-3 days a week in NOLA volunteering at Tulane-based clinics, the first-hand report is that all of those areas of town that the students frequented were largely unaffected by Katrina. I think many will be very surprised by what they find when they get to campus.</p>
<p>I guess even the uninformed can have opinions.</p>
<p>You betcha, CD. </p>
<p>One more addendum: The personal attention and caring with which my son was treated during this entire disaster and its aftermath has been a revelation to me. I attended UF, where no one even knew my name by the time I graduated. My son, one of those freshmen the poster above believes is being sold down the river as chattel, was sought after and cared for by good people at all levels at Tulane and is still being given the best of advice and care. No message from our family has gone unanswered by anyone at the university despite the chaos with which they've had to deal. Calling President Cowan names says WAY more about the speaker than it does about the President.</p>
<p>jmmom - Tulane absolutely did cancel classes. I am not saying they had a choice in the matter but facts are facts and what made the cancellation a bit worse was they held off on doing it until they could lock in the student tuition money. Make no mistake noone is this whole sorry mess was thinking about anything except Tulane's finances and every decision that was made was made to protect Tulane's interests and not the students or families.</p>
<p>I am a parent. I had already paid the Fall tuition and was stuck with a displaced student, a lease on an unoccupied apartment in a devastated city, lots of extra travel costs, and few viable educational choices. Lots of people on the Gulf coast suffered much more grievous losses than the average Tulane student or family and my heart goes out to all of them but these kids were victims too. marite is right that the visiting schools have "no moral obligation to let them stay" but only in the sense that nobody has any moral obligation to bail out NOLA. Charity is what we do volutarily and I think that these schools should be commended if they make the decision to voluntarily bend their rules to help the victims of this natural disaster.</p>