Yale, UPenn, Columbia Admission?

<p>JUNIOR: Stats-</p>

<p>SAT: 770(CR) 770(M) 690(W)
SATII: 660 (World) 780 (Spanish) -hopefully 700 or higher on Math and BioM
Weighted GPA: 4.0
Rank: Top 2% (maybe top 1%) in a class of 700
AP: World (3), Bio (hopefully 5), English (hopefully 4), French (hopefully 3)
Senior Year Classes: AP Lit, AP Micro, AP Psych, AP CalcAB, Physics
Awards: Honor Roll, Shakespearian Monologue Award Winner, Bio Achievement, etc.
Extracurriculars: SGovernment Vice President, President of 2 Clubs, National Honors Society Treasurer, Dance choreographer
No job experience
Volunteer: Local hospital
Summer Activities: Carnegie Mellon Summer Institude
Income: low
Ethnicity: Asian (indian)
Writing (for essays): not too great, but not too bad either.
Teacher Recs: probably not going to be phenomenal, but also not bad</p>

<p>I really wanna go to Columbia, NYU, UPenn, Yale, Brown, Amherst or Williams. Think I have a shot?</p>

<p>NYU is probably a match. The others are high reaches.</p>

<p>You are an Asian. Welcome to the club! It’s going to be inherently harder for you to get into college. I was in the same Situation as you. I had a 800, 800, 650 cr on my SAT1, and I was told that I wouldn’t get into any of the schools you listed above, other than NYU. So, I just took the ACT and got a 35. Then I got into Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, among other top tiers. Your ECs are quite different compared to mine. I think that you need to do more things. You might be over-stretching by applying to such high reaches for you. Also, your SAT2 in World History is low. </p>

<p>IMHO
Columbia- very high reach
NYU- high match
UPenn- very high reach
Yale- very high reach
Brown- very high reach
Amherst- high reach
Williams- high reach. </p>

<p>You need for safety and match schools like CMU, USC, WUSTL (this is not a match tho)</p>

<p>jengajenga, u seem to know what your talking about, do u think i can get into princeton if i have a 3.61 gpa (honors classes though lol), 27 act (havent taken sat)??? im class president, a jv cheerleader, and a member of several other clubs (gsa, sadd, sos, interact)?</p>

<p>and if u take an sat II and do bad, do u HAVE to send it to college’s?</p>

<p>@jengajenga - what were your EC’s?</p>

<p>addymithas CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION. lol</p>

<p>@princetonprncess - Your chances are extremely low.</p>

<p>@Ilyana - why? can u tell me how to better them!? pls</p>

<p>@princetonprncess - I don’t want to hijack this thread… make a new one?</p>

<p>sure but promise to respond!! :)</p>

<p>I published 5 research papers in reputable journals, Eagle Scout, Treasurer of my Venture Scout Troop, Founded a national charity that has to do with prosthetic hands, 3.9 uwgpa, 4.5 wgpa, 35 act, 800 math 2, 780 biom, chem 740, fluent 4 languages with certificates, Certified Pilot, Golf team 4 years (captain 2 of them), A bunch of other stuff. </p>

<p>Pm if you have other questions.</p>

<p>woahhhhhhh</p>

<p>^^ LoL I am Asian Indian, so i had the anti-hook</p>

<p>ya U did, but ur ECs definitely compensated!</p>

<p>I’m a new poster. But, I’ve been reading this forums a while, have gone through the process myself, have friends who have gone through it, and have a friend who is an admission counselor at a prestigious college. So, while I may not be on the same level as some chancers here, I know what I’m talking about. I’m going to be a college sophomore by the way.</p>

<p>Columbia- Like all ivies, it’s tough to say. A high reach. You need a hook. You’re SAT scores are there, I’m not sure you should send all of your APs. Just 4’s and 5’s if that’s an option</p>

<p>NYU- Match. </p>

<p>UPenn- Very high reach.
Yale- Very high reach.
Brown- High reach.
Amherst- High reach.
Williams- High reach.</p>

<p>Advice: Since you’re a junior, you have time. Do something interesting this summer. Start a community service project, make a movie, write a book, whatever you’re passionate about. You’re a dance choreographer, do something with that. Actually, two two to four things, but don’t sacrifice quality on any of them for quantity. Looking like you can handle a lot is important. Maybe even take some classes or grab a part time job. Follow through and consistency is important I believe. Maybe do some more volunteering. Just don’t “chill” all summer.</p>

<p>Try to establish closer relationships with the teachers you expect to ask to write your recs. Keep in touch via email, give them more information about yourself when you finally ask (if they dont already request that).</p>

<p>Make sure you’re essay is thoughtful. Creative topics are probably helpful, but not necessarily compulsory. I’ve heard admission counselors say that what’s important isn’t necessarily how “unique” the topic is (many of them have been doing this for many years and have seen everything), but rather how thoughtfully your ideas play out and how they portray you as a person. You said you don’t expect your essay to be exceptional. That is unacceptable as far as I’m concerned and is the way counselors distinguish between candidates with all the same SAT/GPA numbers. I wish I had spent more time on mine. Work at it, have your english teacher/parents help you make it as good as it can be and still be your voice. </p>

<p>I don’t know how many times you’ve taken the SAT, but I would take it one more time to try to break 700 with writing. <em>Crash course in SAT writing</em> Honestly, I think I only got a 9 or MAYBE 10 on the actual essay portion and still got an 800 on the section. The questions are 70% of the writing score I believe, or close to it. So, develop 2-3 good examples with the best vocab you know how to use with an intro and conclusion, making sure to use specific examples. As for the more important part, the questions, read them very carefully and watch for basic grammar errors and just think carefully before choosing “None of the above.” I think I heard only about 1/5 are actually that answer.</p>

<p>When you send in your applications, although it didn’t help me much, I think letters of continuing interest are helpful and give you a leg up. Pick the admission counselor who you think read your app (or ask them to forward it to that person), and send a letter stating why you really want to go there and think you would be a good fit. And mail in additional/supporting documents if you can’t fit everything on common app.</p>

<p>As it stands, it’s very possible you’ll get rejected/wl’ed everywhere except nyu just because of the number of qualified applicants. If you feel passionate about Amherst or Williams, apply early and you’ll have a MUCH better chance.</p>

<p>I think you should apply to every school you listed, though, in addition of course to a couple more matches/safeties.</p>

<p>Hope that helped. Also, I’m not trying to discourage you. You definitely appear to have the potential to get into any of these schools, I’m just trying to help you stand out.</p>

<p>:) Let me know if you have any questions and what the eventual results are!</p>

<p>^^ Listen to this guy here!!</p>

<p>Wow, that was very… disheartening. While I do appreciate all of your suggestions, comments, and thoughts, I still think I am going to apply to all those places, especially UPenn, as that is my dream school. </p>

<p>@imasophomore: Thank you SO MUCH! That actually helped. I’m already doing all those things this summer, though. I’m taking summer classes at a local University, volunteering at a hospital, and getting a job. I will, however, look forward to starting a community service project this summer. </p>

<p>Does anybody else have any helpful advice as to how I could amp up my application to those schools? Or is everyone else going to tell me that I have no shot at the other schools and my only likely match is NYU…</p>

<p>It’s not that your only match being NYU says anything about you in particular. Very few people can apply to very top schools and be anything better than a low reach at best.</p>

<p>It would be unlikely for almost every applicant, and most know this, to get into HYPS, MIT, Cal Tech. But that has nothing to do with the those people, it’s just that with 30,000 applicants and an incoming class of 1500-2000 people, combined with the fact that must people who apply to those schools are extremely smart, qualified, and would be able to succeed there, they can’t let everyone in.</p>