<p>Which college should i choose to apply too? What are their pros and cons? I want a lot of opportunities in all fields but specifically in the fine arts and business.</p>
<p>Their similarties outweigh by far their differences. I don’t see why you wouldn’t apply to both.</p>
<p>“specifically in the fine arts and business.”</p>
<p>Business: Neither school grants an undergraduate degree in business or has business as a major.</p>
<p>Fine Arts: Both grant a degree in film studies, art and music. Harvard doesn’t grant a degree in theater studies, Yale does. </p>
<p>See: [Majors</a> in Yale College | Yale College](<a href=“http://yalecollege.yale.edu/content/majors-yale-college-0]Majors”>http://yalecollege.yale.edu/content/majors-yale-college-0)
[Fields</a> of Concentration Handbook for Students 2010-2011](<a href=“http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k69286&tabgroupid=icb.tabgroup106995]Fields”>http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k69286&tabgroupid=icb.tabgroup106995)</p>
<p>The likelihood of you getting into either is low, so I would advise you to apply to both.</p>
<p>Compared to other top-tier schools, Yale is slightly behind in nits placement for business. In that regard, Harvard is at the top along with Wharton.</p>
<p>“It’s what you make of it.”-that’s what one Yale student told me</p>
<p>Yale sends about 1/4 of its graduates into finance/consulting/banking. I don’t think it lags in its placement in business. However, it does have less of a start-up culture than a place like Stanford or maybe Harvard (not sure how much of a start-up culture Harvard has).</p>
<p>@kwijiborjt I know MIT has a pretty strong startup culture, and some of that likely has to do with Cambridge, so I’d guess that Harvard’s startup culture is decent and probably more prevalent than Yale’s.</p>
<p>Check out wallstoasis. There is overwhelming agreement on the fact that Yale does not place as well as Harvard in terms of business. This doesn’t necessarily mean that a lot of Yallies don’t go into business, but top firms look to Harvard and Wharton, then Stanford and Princeton, before Yale. Still a great option and you can still enter into business from Hale, but Harvard regarded higher by the top finance/consulting firms.</p>
<p>I’m not a member of these firms, but I would gamble the claim about Harvard being preferred by the top firms is absurd. Almost all the top IB and Consulting places recruit on almost all the top campuses. It may be true that a firm may think more highly of Harvard or Wharton because they tend to be more successful recruiting there. But it’s not as though you’re going to go into an interview and when your candidacy is being considered that the difference between Harvard and Yale or Wharton and Yale is going to play any factor in the business’ decision.</p>
<p>Considering the absolutely ridiculous level of competition for getting into some of the top firms, that difference can definitely play a role in the selection process. Several firms recruit solely from Wharton and several others recruit solely from Whartom and Harvard. To be clear, yes you can get a top job from Yale, but firms will typically look to the other top schools first.</p>
<p>Again I urge you to visit wallstoasis.com for further information as they have more knowledgable professionals answering similar questions</p>
<p>Why wouldnt you just apply to both?</p>
<p>Besides, Yale does not place worse than Harvard in Wall Street.</p>
<p>What facts are you basing that claim on?</p>
<p>[Harvard?s</a> Liberal-Arts Failure Is Wall Street?s Gain: Ezra Klein - Bloomberg](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>
<p>"As of 2011, finance remained the most popular career for Harvard graduates, sucking up 17 percent of those who went from college to a full-time job. At Yale, 14 percent of the 2010 graduating class, and at Princeton, 35.9 percent, were headed into finance.</p>
<p>At Harvard and Yale, at least, the numbers have drifted down in recent years. Harvard’s 2008 class sent 28 percent of its gainfully employed graduates to Wall Street, while Yale sent 26 percent. Whether the recent decline reflects an enduring change or a recession-induced blip remains to be seen. I’m betting blip, but perhaps I’m wrong."</p>
<p>As a Yale and Wharton grad (BA and MBA, respectively) who has worked and recruited in the finance industry for going on two decades, I can assure you, a Yale degree does not disadvantage you in the least relative to its other main competitors. Harvard and Princeton may send somewhat larger numbers of grads to Wall Street, but that is because they both have larger pools of students who are the type who might be attracted to Wall Street kind of work given its increasingly quantitative flavor. Harvard, and Princeton even moreso, have more engineering/math/physics/stats types == which Wall Street and hedge funds seem to have a need for. That said, the competition for these jobs is even fiercer on these campuses. If you are a quant at Yale (and there are many of them) the doors are open as wide to you as well.</p>
<p>Of course, besides the quants, financial firms love jocky types with great personalities to go out drinking with the clients. I suppose, since Yale has sort of cut back on the corps of recruited athletes in recent years (at least, that’s what I heard) maybe there are fewer of those running around Yale these days than at legendarily jocky Princeton and Harvard. Who knows.</p>
<p>If you don’t fit into one of those categories, then someone in your family better be awfully rich and well-connected, if you are targeting the biggest, most craved firms in Finance. Or else you better lucky.</p>
<p>Wharton undergrad is a special case. It is almost always the first name the major financial firms think of only because it is the only prestigious school that comes with 500 seniors who can already crunch all the relevant equations. That said, if you are at Wharton, the competition is very tough – there are just that many more completely trained and finance-rabid people clawing at the same doors as you. Trust me, I know the school intimately. I honestly would not recommend to anyone I loved or cared about to pursue a Wharton education at age 18. From a long-term perspective, I believe a broader education is more valuable at that point in your life.</p>
<p>I went to Yale and Harvard B-School. I’ve worked in i-banking, mngmt consulting, private equity and VC. </p>
<p>I truly, truly feel very bad for those who are trying at age 17 to optimize the odds of going to Wall St. or consulting. The simple reason is that THOSE JOBS SUCK. </p>
<p>There’s a reason why those firms come to campus–the turnover is incredibly high. And, as someone who has recruited for many “top tier” firms, there’s no bias for Yale over Harvard, or for Harvard over Yale. It doesn’t even register. We were simply looking for people who were smart, personable and would be wiling to work 90+ hrs a week, every week, in exchange for a recommendation letter for business school. That’s it. I know plenty of Harvard College grads who were not suited for that role. Similarly, Yale College students.</p>
<p>It’s not about the college. It’s about YOU.</p>
<p>So, take a deep breath and step back. Get an education and choose a college at which you feel “at home” and thrive. Honestly, everything else will fall into place.</p>
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I don’t think there’s any student in the world with this goal who needs to decide which of these two schools to apply to–apply to both of them, and a number of other similar schools, as well as matches and safeties.</p>
<p>SuperDad, ^^^This is why you shouldn’t post and resurrect old threads.</p>