Yale vs Stanford - class of 2014

[booyaksha]

<p>iamtbh, even though i could counter, i’m not going to respond because I think it is petty.</p>

<p>veviac, CONGRATS to your child!!! Getting into either Yale or Stanford, let alone both, is a great achievement. Best of luck with your choice. And visit them both if you can!</p>

[Bay]

<p>I think both Yale and Stanford are on par, but the campuses feel completely different, so I am always amazed when someone can’t decide between the two.</p>

[namaskar]

<p>If safety is part of your consideration…</p>

<p>Violent crimes per 100,000 people in New Haven in 2001: 1540
[New</a> Haven Profile | New Haven CT | Population, Crime, Map](<a href=“http://www.idcide.com/citydata/ct/new-haven.htm]New”>New Haven Profile | New Haven CT | Population, Crime, Map)</p>

<p>Violent crimes per 100,000 people in Palo Alto in 2001: 137
[Palo</a> Alto Profile | Palo Alto CA | Population, Crime, Map](<a href=“http://www.idcide.com/citydata/ca/palo-alto.htm]Palo”>Palo Alto Profile | Palo Alto CA | Population, Crime, Map)</p>

[T26E4]

<p>namaskar: New haven and Palo Alto are extremely different places. But seeing as most students don’t live in New Haven proper, isn’t it better to look at on-campus crime incidences?</p>

<p>That being said, I don’t doubt that the grittier urban nature of New Haven and the Yale campus may be a legitimate concern to students and families. As I have stated many times, I wouldn’t hesitate to send either of my daughters to Yale if the circumstance allowed it…</p>

[amciw]

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"We’re left asking: How does Stanford do it? They seem to have the best of both the academic and athletic worlds. Surely this configuration comes at the cost of a student body divided along a school-sports boundary. However, it’s not Stanford’s athletic superiority that effects the divide. Any Eli, especially he who ventures to Commons after 7 p.m. or to Toad’s on a Wednesday night, can see there is a real cultural rift between our mediocre varsity athletes and non-athletes at Yale. It’s not surprising. The members of varsity sports teams — even the bad ones — spend most of their time together (both on and off the field), so they naturally grow closer with one other. Back in the common room, meanwhile, where non-athletes are whining about midterms, they remark how their athlete roommates are never around — a symbolic rift widens between them. Does Stanford’s superior athletics program mean this divide is that much worse on the West Coast?</p>

<p>The theory behind Yale’s residential-college system, which creates “microcosms of the University as a whole,” shows no signs of social imbalance. When asked about athletes, University officials are quick to point out that Yale does not recruit, does not offer athletic scholarships and does not waver from standards of high academic excellence. The truth of the matter, as many freshmen discover, is the contrary: Yale coaches recruit. But unable to offer athletic scholarships, they cannot recruit anyone with any real talent. While other schools justify these kinds of scholarships by pointing to sold-out stadiums, the Ivy League persists under the weight of its own academic standards.</p>

<p>We pretend to be an elite academic institution where students of different backgrounds and interests exchange ideas in environments designed to foster communication — like the residential colleges. But, one cannot forget that we also admit recruited athletes who are, for the most part, of a substandard academic caliber and more likely to be apathetic toward collegiate academia."

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<p>That’s touchingly inaccurate in regards to what I’ve personally witnessed. It’s about par for the course with the YDN, though.</p>

[amciw]

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This is absurd. You’re telling the OP to choose the school that is “less competitive” (i.e. weaker) in the sciences.

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<p>Irrelevant for undergrad, as noted. You’re there to learn, not worry about everyone else.</p>

[mude11]

<p>For those that don’t pay attention, it might come as surprise just how competitive some of the athletic programs are in the Ivy League. There are lots of teams/athletes competing at a top Division I level. No scholarships is a severe disadvantage of course, but there are clearly a lot of very strong athletes that have an interest in what is offered at Ivy League institutions.</p>