<p>How about re-posting all the replies to that on that thread.</p>
<p>You could easily argue Yale's "Berkeley Oval" was a prototypical college long before any "system" was "advocated for adoption." The point is, Yale has the only system of such scope and importance, and it is a 4-year system. Princeton has a late 20-th century marketing ploy.</p>
<p>actually, i posted a link to the entire thread, not to my individual post, as YOU are wont to do. now, how about you stop repeating "facts" once they've been shown to be false (e.g. that princeton's college system began in 1986, when it began in earnest in 1983, with 1968 antecedents)? and how about you stop repeating characterizations that are clearly false (that princeton's system is a "marketing ploy," when undergrads have spent their underclass years in residential colleges for the last 23 years, and the university is currently pumping several hundred million into construction, renovation, and general reorganization). finally, as a i have pointed out before, yale does not have "the only system of such scope and importance." harvard has virtually the exact same system, and it beat yale to the punch. it just doesn't thump its chest about its system's uniqueness like yale, and certain of its partisans like yourself, so often do.</p>
<p>look scottie, no offense and not to defend posterx, but Yale's residential college system is the heart and soul of the college. Princeton's just aren't the same nor are they as well developed institutions as they are at yale. For better or worse, Princeton's colleges are a shadow of Yale's.</p>
<p>Now that's a bit excessive, Bulldog. </p>
<p>There is reason to believe that as another "college" or two is built at Princeton, and the so-called "eating clubs" are denied their principal raisson d'etre, the housing situation will become virtually identical at Harvard, Princeton and Yale. All the partisan puffing about which is "better" and why will be focussed on the margins.</p>
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<p>Princeton's just aren't the same nor are they as well developed institutions as they are at yale.</p>
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<p>i don't disagree with a word of that, bulldog: yale's college system is several decades older and a bit more fully "developed" (by involving a greater fraction of all undergrads) than princeton's. i never denied this or attempted to argue that princeton's, despite these "deficiencies," is just as "good." i simply objected to your buddy X's characterization of their histories and their differences ("the only system of such scope and importance" vs. a mere "marketing ploy").</p>
<p>I agree with you, crimsonbulldog. We'll have to wait and see how Princeton's colleges work.
BTW, Byerly, it's "raison d'etre."
Haven't had time to practice your French?</p>
<p>F.scottie, Yale's system is not "virtually the exact same" as Harvard's. Yale's is far more comprehensive and all-encompassing, not to mention much, much, much more compact. There are huge differences between the two that can be best gleaned by a good 3-day overnight visit to each place. </p>
<p>As far as Princeton goes, if Yale's and Harvard's systems are Earth and Venus, so to speak, Princeton's system is a small rock in the Oort Cloud.</p>
<p>You are as outrageously wrong as ever, ""posterX". This never seems to bother you, although you do Yale a great disservice in this regard, as "Bulldog" has often informed you.</p>
<p>As your name suggests, Byerly Hall, you are outrageously focused only on promoting your alma mater. This seems to grow more important over time for you as Harvard continues to fall further behind Yale and Princeton each year in terms of endowment per student, and, after a long reign, no longer has either the lowest admissions rate or highest NMSC-NMS percentage. (I speculate this is a direct result of its relatively spread out undergraduate dormitory area's deadening effect on student life). </p>
<p>Meanwhile, I am a nonbiased advocate and advisor for students who, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, strongly and continuously suggests overnight visits to their college choices -- and only because the top colleges are so different from one another in terms of their quality of campus life.</p>
<p>Not true at all, and rather amusiung coming from a long-time internet poster such as yourself known elsewhere as the "YALIE TROLL", posting under a string of aliases!</p>
<p>Harvard is doing very well, thank you, as is Princeton. Yale is doing well too, despite the corrosive impact of your efforts on her behalf.</p>
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Aside from the point that it's very debatable as to whether living in a residential college all 4 years is essential to making it "true" (after all, Yale freshman have full access to the vast resources of their college), there are two Yale colleges whose students live in them all 4 years: Timothy Dwight and Silliman.</p>
<p>If you think the outsides of the colleges are ornate, (<a href="http://www.yale.edu/res/slideshow/3.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/res/slideshow/3.html</a>) you haven't seen the insides... they are far more ornate than anything at Oxford, Cambridge or elsewhere. Not the dormitory rooms themselves necessarily, but some of the other areas and less well-known places such as the "common rooms."</p>
<p>I was a student at Cambridge after Yale. You have obviously never been there. Maybe if you stop trying to justify Yale by comparing it with other institutions like Harvard, Princeton, and Cambridge, people might take you more seriously. Yale can stand on its own merit.</p>
<p>I'm new here and have some questions. My sister is graduatuing from Morse this year and she liked it well enough (she said that the people were great). Which college at Yale has the most helpful staff (teachers, Masters, students). I am applying early to Yale next year and already know that I do not want to be in Morse, but I'm interested in the other coleges. Can anyone help me out?</p>
<p>I think in this respect it really is fair to compare yale to other colleges, because our resco system works better than any other i've seen. I was confused when i was deciding between colleges why yale's resco system had so much enthusiastic support whereas harvard's house system and princeton's residential college system didn't have as much. While i've never been an undergrad at either of those institutions, there's an unmistakablRe enthusiasm and identity associated with residential colleges here that i think would be hard to replicate. I don't know anyone at either of those colleges that's half as enthusiastic about their housing unit as the average yalie.</p>
<p>KK18: If accepted, you can only ask to be IN Morse (because of your sister) or NOT in Morse (because of your sister) -- which is your situation. You can not choose which of the other eleven you might be assigned.</p>
<p>T26E4: Oh yes, thank you, I understod that part. I will say that I do not wish to be in Morse if accepted, but I was just curious what the other colleges are like. I have heard that Berkley has great food and that Stiles and Morse are not so hot. What are your opnions?</p>
<p>The food is pretty similar actually. Berkeley used to have a special organic food initiative but it's spread to all 12 colleges. Reputations die hard, apparently... Berkeley hasn't been the test kitchen for a few years now. The dining hall is still popular though bc it's centrally located and quite pretty.</p>