<p>Here are the reasons(feel free to correct me if i am wrong):
1.With the financial crisis fewer kids are going to accept the offer despite harvards fin aid programm bc of the insecurity the crisis generates.
2.The yield was in the previous years: 79.8(2010) --> 79.2(2011) --> 76(2012)
3.From discussions here on CC from the kids that got both into yale and harvard and there must be like 10 ppl here it seems that most of them are turning harvard down for Yale!</p>
<p>To make myself clear, i love Harvard. In fact all of this may be generated by my eager to get out of the Waitlist!Please add if you want to this thread!
Thank you veery much!</p>
<p>I think the cross-admits leaning to Yale are more vocal than those leaning towards Harvard. I, for one, am pretty sure I will be attending Harvard, but I haven’t posted anything to that effect until now.</p>
<p>And I think people will take the financial aid packages for what they are worth. My family and I have been incredibly impressed with Harvard’s financial aid: for us, Harvard has essentially the same price as a state school, and I suspect for many other people, those distressed by the economy, it will be similar.</p>
<p>Well, Fitszimmons said he was anticipating to pick over 200 from the waitinglist, after recently saying 150-175 (which indicates a lower yield than expected).</p>
<p>Hence, this year there is going to be 1655 enrolling to the class. So lets say the ammount of waitlistees getting on the accepted list are 200: 1655-200 = 1455</p>
<p>And 1455/2046= 71.1%</p>
<p>Or 1655/2246 = 73.7% (depending on which yield one wants to calculate)</p>
<p>Did he say he intended to take 200? If you’re referring to the Crimson article which announced Harvard’s 7% admit rate, he said that they took ~200 last year, not that they intend to take ~200 this year.</p>
<p>That Boston Globe thing has to be a misquote. 200 was last year. You can’t know how many you have to take off the waitlist until after may 1 when you know how many accepted your offer.</p>
<p>i agree nell_ann!if this estimation is true then 1665-200=1465 students have to accept the offer which wud make the yield 71,6!which may eventually come true but i highly doupt that an adcom from Harvard wud be that pessimistic about the yield!!</p>
<p>1.With the financial crisis fewer kids are going to accept the offer despite harvards fin aid programm bc of the insecurity the crisis generates.
I really, really hope people don’t turn Harvard down for this reason. Harvard is planning on spending $160 million on financial aid for 2009-2010. Harvard’s endowment is definitely more than $20 billion (and probably closer to $30 billion) right now. Financial aid is only about 10% of university spending and probably the absolute last thing the University would cut.</p>
<p>You can count on your financial aid package for four years. Don’t let money keep you from coming to Harvard!</p>
<p>anyone else that has any information or wants to predict how the financial crisis will effect the yield?there is also another reason that will make all ivy yields lower this year, it seems that a record number of applicants applied to all ivies so there are many cross admits,more than other years…Lets hope!</p>
<p>If you’re in at H or Y, take out the loans. Having the opportunity to attend either of the two greatest universities in the world, hands-down, is the best investment you will ever make.</p>
<p>Acceptance rates is based off the 2,046 kids offerred. Class size is about 1,668. So, a 81.52% acceptance rate would fill the class.</p>
<p>Last year they offered about 1,948 spots. With a 76% acceptance rate, that implied 1,480 accepted, which seems a little low. Assuming a more normal 79% rate, that would be about 1,539 accepted, leaving 149 spots unfilled. That would seem about right if they offered 200 off the waitlist, and 149 accepted (75% yield). I think a lower yield off the waitlist is reasonable - Financial aid not enough, cleared waitlist for another school (Yale, MIT, etc.), kids deciding to go somewhere else and not taking themselves off the wait list, etc. Just because you are on the waitlist doesn’t mean you are any more likely to attend than someone offered regular admissions.</p>
<p>So, assuming that 78% of the of the 2,046 accept, that means 1,596 accept, and 92 spots unfilled. Assuming 75% yield off the waitlist, that means 122 will be offered off the waitlist.</p>
<p>A 75% yield, and a subsequent 75% yield off the waitlist, that would imply 205 offered off the waitlist.</p>
<p>The dean himself said he anticipated over 200 students to be taken off the waitlist. Last year he anticipated 150-175 to be taken off while 227 were actually taken off. What we could make out of this I don’t know but I sure am hopeful :P</p>
<p>Tyler09 - Harvard is only $200k if your parents make > $180k/year (and you might even get aid if your income is ~$180k if you have multiple siblings in college)</p>
<p>I stated my reasons in the first post,and I am quite sure this will be the case… Princeton anticipates a yield of 55% and i can not imagine Harvard’s being more than 75%…The thing is,that I believe that most kids from the waitlist,will accept the place if offered the chance…Remember that only 66% of those offered a place in the waitlist accepted it in the first place!</p>