Yield update Class of 2022

(Forgive me if this has already been covered)

At the DC Launch reception today (nice event BTW) we were told the yield for the Class of 2022 was 79%!

We were at the NY Lauchpad reception yesterday, and also heard the same figure. Yeah, nice event. Also great-looking incoming class :wink:

Oh no, another oversubscribed class :wink: ? I heard the Class of 2022 would be above 1,800, the biggest College class in history.

The Administration may as well buy Vue53 and City Hyde Park as satellite dorms.

Same from Philly tonight. Great reception at the Barnes Fiounfation.

Oh Lordy . . .

Would it be okay to everyone if I just round it up and call it 80% yield? :wink:

Shocker - the college fills a huge proportion of their class using ED and ED2 and they have a really high yield. Wow!

oh wow. that means there are 1840 first years.

And the RD yield went up to 45%?

Redoing the numbers…

Apps

ED1 4,000
EA 9,000
ED+EA 13,000
ED2 3,291
RD 16,000
ED2+RD 19,291
Total 32,291

Rate

ED1 17.0%
EA 4.7%
ED+EA 8.5%
ED2 17.0%
RD 4.0%
ED2+RD 6.2%
Total 7.2%

Accepts

ED1 681
EA 419
ED+EA 1,100
ED2 560
RD 640
ED2+RD 1200
Total 2,329

Yield

ED1 100.0%
EA 75.0%
ED+EA 90.5%
ED2 100.0%
RD 44.5%
ED2+RD 70.4%
Total 79.0%

Enrolled

ED1 681
EA 315
ED+EA 995
ED2 560
RD 285
ED2+RD 845
Total 1,840

% Class

ED1 37%
EA 17%
ED+EA 54%
ED2 30%
RD 15%
ED2+RD 46%
Total 100%

Not saying I called this one or anything but will refer all you peeps to my little commented-upon ditty from several weeks ago, when I noticed that HUM capacity for the upcoming year seemed extraordinary . . .

http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21576486/#Comment_21576486

Mind you, these #s don’t include the gap year offers. Based on one small data point (my kids school) yield there was 50%.

Very astute JB.

@FStratford looking at the numbers above, acceptance rate for EA is 4.7% vs RD of 4.0%. Why on earth would anyone apply RD???

Because some people have it in their heads that any kind of early application is bad if they are trying to get the best merit aid deal?

Because many less sophisticated applicants aren’t aware that there’s any difference, and don’t know that they ought to have their stuff together to do multiple applications before the end of October, when most of the colleges where most of the people they know are applying (if they are applying anywhere) have deadlines in late January, or later? Many of the baseline public institutions where I live don’t actually have deadlines.

Because they applied SCEA somewhere and can’t apply EA?

Actually, since they introduced ED options, the admission rate on EA has come way down to the point where the difference vs. RD isn’t that significant. It wasn’t long ago when there was a huge difference between EA and RD admission rates. The overall admission rate was a lot higher than it is now. The EA rate was around 40%, and the RD rate closer to 20%. (Both were dropping pretty quickly.) Because of that, Chicago started getting a much higher percentage of its applications EA than was the case at most EA schools.

They don’t include class of 22 gap year kids or class of 21 gap year kids. If you are looking at size of 1st year class they might cancel or come close to it.

Need to realize that the first E(x) is also used for athletic and other special hooked recruits that are told if they want the benefit of the hook they need to apply in the E(x) round where x now equals D but used to equal A. When my son visited Williams, he was told once they factor these kids out, their ED and RD acceptance rates are very similar. Not sure if that is the case at UChicago, but I am absolutely sure it does account for a portion of those ED1 and ED2 acceptance rates.

I dont know, that was a swag based on rumored and informally announced early (EA+ ED1) application numbers and acceptance rate for ED1… and then backing out the announced RD accept rate, and now the whispered yield, acceptance rate and application volume.

It could be that yield of EA edged up to > 75% and that RD yield is really still in the 30s or somewhere in between… but I think an EA yield of >75% is less believable than an RD yield of 40+. Those are the only “guesses” unconfirmed by rumors and unofficial announcements at this point, I think. Unless I missed something, which is a huge possibility because none of these numbers are official.

I get your point though if RD acceptance is only ~1% lower than EA yield, why rush? I dont know. I think though that if their application is ready by EA, why not submit and get that extra bump, no matter how small?

Also my guess is that this 4% on RD was intentional on the college’s part. If RD accept rate is lower than HYMPS, then it will surely dampem application volume for the round that accounts for 50% of all applications.

oops, one alternative swag. (this is the danger of unconfirmed numbers…)

The 1200 accepts for RD could be really 1,229 (if we trust the rumored total accepts of 2329 for all rounds more). This scenario means ED1/2 acceptance was .9% higher than I originally computed and the gap of acceptance rate between RD and EA goes down to 0.3%.

Apps

ED1 4000
EA 9000
ED+EA 13000
ED2 3291
RD 16000
ED2+RD 19291
Total 32291

Rate

ED1 17.9%
EA 4.3%
ED+EA 8.5%
ED2 17.9%
RD 4.0%
ED2+RD 6.4%
Total 7.2%

Accepts
716
384
1,100
589
640
1,229
2,329

Yield

ED1 100.0%
EA 75.0%
ED+EA 91.3%
ED2 100.0%
RD 38.6%
ED2+RD 68.0%
Total 79.0%

 Enrolled 

ED1 716
EA 288
ED+EA 1,004
ED2 589
RD 247
ED2+RD 836
Total 1,840

% Class

ED1 38.9%
EA 15.7%
ED+EA 54.6%
ED2 32.0%
RD 13.4%
ED2+RD 45.4%
Total 100.0%

That’s a very common thing to say, but when you look at the numbers I think you conclude it can’t be true. Sure, the “real” ED acceptance rate for unhooked applicants is lower than the overall ED rate, but it’s generally still a lot higher than the equivalent acceptance rate for RD kids.

@JHS I think we are in agreement. However, that discount rate is a significant chunk. I don’t know how many athletic hooks a school gives, but something like 50% of Williams students participate in varsity athletics. I don’t know the percentage at UChicago (might be a weekend project), but assume half that number have a recruited athlete hook? I don’t think you’d be too far off to say of the 17.9%, that 5-7% is inflated by that fact.

Conversely, you probably have many people applying only ED because they believe that the ED bump is the only way they get accepted. However, even with the ED bump it is a great big reach and thus the acceptance rate of truly qualified candidates is probably much higher then it is reported during ED.

Wouldn’t it be interesting if schools reported acceptance rate of those who fall within the 25-75 range of test scores and GPA.