Yield?

<p>Has Princeton released its yield information yet?</p>

<p>no, but unofficially assembled figures by people on CC is around 58%.</p>

<p>do you think that is a realistic number? I would think it would be higher. Penn's was at 63%, and I would expect Princeton to have a higher yield than Penn. I may be wrong though, so don't answere angrily if I am.</p>

<p>Princeton didn't have an ED option this year, though.</p>

<p>The last estimates I saw around here were more like 62% yield.</p>

<p>Seems to be logical given the lack of ED this year (that sounds funny depending on how you read it).</p>

<p>Any idea why this hasn't been released yet?</p>

<p>a bit scared by/ashmed of the significant drop? haha, just suggesting... no offense to anyone.</p>

<p>Well, since waitlist decisions aren't even in yet, does that mean yield hasn't been calculated yet? </p>

<p>And even if it ignores waitlist decisions, it's possible the admissions office is so busy fielding that job that they haven't had time to release yield yet.</p>

<p>Harvard and Yale released preliminary yield numbers before accounting for waitlist decisions:</p>

<p>The</a> Harvard Crimson :: News :: College Sees No Change in Admissions Yield</p>

<p>Yale</a> Daily News - Amid upheaval at other top-ranked schools, Yale yield holds steady</p>

<p>Perhaps Princeton's drop due to ED elimination is significant enough that they're waiting (haha) in the hopes that the waitlist can help the yield number before they release it.</p>

<p>^^ that's what I was thinking.</p>

<p>Actually, Princeton has already published the total number of students who accepted offers of admission prior to waitlist use and the total number of students admitted so it’s easy to do the math even if the University hasn't officially released a number. Prior to going to the waitlist, the matriculation rate this year is just a little over 58%, a drop of about 10 percentage points from last year. After use of the waitlist, Princeton is expecting the final yield to be between 60% and 62% or a drop of about 6 or 7 percentage points. This is just a little lower than it had anticipated. When Harvard and Princeton dropped their early admission programs, Harvard estimated that its yield would drop by exactly this amount (i.e. 6 to 7%). That, however, was before their announcement of a very significant increase in financial aid that appears to have counterbalanced the effect of dropping single choice early action. Harvard’s matriculation rate prior to the use of the waitlist was 74%, a drop of about four percentage points from last year’s rate. If Harvard’s estimate that it will take a little over 200 students off the waitlist is correct then its final matriculation rate will probably be about 76% a slight drop from last year but still the highest among this group.</p>

<p>Yale and Stanford both kept their early admission programs and saw slightly different results. Yale’s matriculation rate remained almost unchanged, dropping just very slightly by about half a percentage point but Stanford’s actually went up. Both Yale and Stanford followed Harvard in announcing sweeping financial aid reforms prior to admission decisions being released. Yale admitted 885 of its early applicants this year, a 176 or 25% increase over the 709 it admitted last year. Stanford actually made fewer offers of admission to its early applicants. Early applicants tend to matriculate at much higher rates than regular decision applicants.</p>

<p>There will certainly be a significantly lower yield for Princeton this year but I understand that the academic profile of the class will actually be even stronger than last year. Princeton originally estimated that the admissions rate would climb and that yield would drop. They were wrong on the first guess and right on the second. The admission rate actually reached a new low as the total number of applicants increased significantly. As for the matriculation rate, Princeton’s admission office apparently estimated 63% and made admission decisions based on that assumption. It appears that this guess was slightly too high. The lower than anticipated yield was almost certainly at least partly the result of its peer schools having announced highly-publicized financial aid increases. </p>

<p>Each school follows its own path. For Princeton, the benefit of getting rid of early decision is that the applicant pool is significantly more diverse and even stronger academically. I believe that this was the most important reason for the change though, philosophically, both Princeton and Harvard believe that the early programs “advantage the advantaged.” That this is true seems to have been shown by the fact that both schools saw significantly more impressive and diverse applicant pools this year than last. </p>

<p>Remember that all of these numbers are preliminary. Harvard, Princeton and Yale are using their waitlists. Stanford may or may not. Since Harvard (which tends to have the strongest draw of these four) is taking so many from its waitlist, there will almost certainly be an effect on the other three as they lose currently committed students and have to go back to their own waitlists. We won’t know the actual matriculation numbers until the statistics are reported next fall.</p>

<p>Here is Stanford's current position. Yield even higher than Yale.</p>

<p>Editorial:</a> Yield uncertainty complicates admission decisions - The Stanford Daily Online</p>