You can see your admission decision immediately only if you apply online??

<p>Do all schools do this? :( </p>

<p>I was going to apply online and even started some apps online then realized that I really prefer the traditional paper method, online seems kind of limited to me, and plus, I currently don't have the best net connection.</p>

<p>but it appears that if I apply via paper, you receive your admission decision via paper, even you put your email on the application...is this true?</p>

<p>If that's true, it's really really unfair, i can send the paper app way in advance of the duedate and still receive my decision later than others that submit their <em>online</em> app at 3:00 am Dec.31?</p>

<p>Well I know that many of my schools gave me some form of account to check with on my application and they also had my admissions decision a few days before I got it in the mail. Also, some of the schools actually sent me an e-mail to the one I listed for them, I think it just depends on the school.</p>

<p>That's relieving, I guess UVa is an exception...unfortunately.</p>

<p>
[quote]
We strongly recommend that you apply
online.The online application consolidates
the application process, enables
you to see when application materials
have been received by our office, and
allows you to view your admission
decision online the day that we mail
decision letters
. Please visit the Office
of Admission Web site listed above
and click Apply Online for further
instructions.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>
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If that's true, it's really really unfair, i can send the paper app way in advance of the duedate and still receive my decision later than others that submit their <em>online</em> app at 3:00 am Dec.31?

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Yep, unless the college makes decision on a rolling basis.</p>

<p>Yeah, but time of delivery can be up to a week, which is what I meant, time of delivery aka snail mail.</p>

<p>It is strange that UVA ties the ability to see the status of your application to how you submitted it. My kids did their all their apps by paper, but were able to view the status online like anyone else. The acknowledgement of their applications gave them the necessary sign-on information.</p>

<p>My son did apply to UVA too -- I thought he was able to find out immediately. But this was some years ago so my memory is shaky.</p>

<p>Of course, it is possible. There is at least one school (UChicago) where you can apply online, but the decisions are only given by snail mail. And they won't even tell you when exactly they will send the letters. I remember last year on the UChicago board all these anxious posts -- when did they send the letters last year? will it help to call and ask? why did different people get told different things when they called? Are the envelopes all mailed on the same day? You got your letter -- where do you live? How quick is your mail from Chicago? Etc., etc. A crazy system!</p>

<p>I know, very crazy & anxiety ridden. On the UVa application (paper), it says:
[quote]
PRINT CLEARLY: WE SEND IMPORTANT EMAIL THAT YOU MUST CHECK

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, which I guess is:
[quote]
If you apply with a paper application,
please allow three weeks for your
application to arrive at our office and
to be data-entered and filed.
We will e-mail you if your application
to U.Va. remains incomplete or if
we are waiting to receive information
from you or from your school. Please
do not call the Admission Office to
check your application status; rest
assured that you will hear from us if
your application is not complete.

[/quote]
, which I guess is the only email that they have to send.</p>

<p>If it helps at all, with three different schools my daughter's application wasn't complete. Two places didn't get the test scores (or misplaced them) and one place was missing a recommendation. All the schools let us know and we were able to resubmit without any problem. So the system does seem to work, at least from our experience.</p>

<p>It's not "unfair" as much as it is a "carrot & stick" approach. What they're really saying is, "We REALLY want you to apply on line, so if we do it, we will reward you by giving you your decision on line. If you decide not to, that's fine, but it's more work for us, so we won't give you the advantage of on line decisions. Your choice." At least they tell you up front so you can make your own decision.</p>

<p>Yeah I'm sure the system works, I just think everyone should get their decision at the same time.</p>

<p>Chedva, okay well that aside, don't you think its unfair that those kids who choose not to apply online (no internet, whatever) still have to pay an application fee while those that do apply online sometimes have the option? They don't tell you that upfront.</p>

<p>
[quote]
Do all schools do this?

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</p>

<p>.karrupt., the obvious answer is NO -- not all schools do "this" (or anything else for that matter). It's a virtual guarantee that when discretion is allowed (as is the case for individual colleges and their respective admissions application processes), that not all will follow standard practices. Not all schools will provide online acceptance notification... not all want SAT scores, not all are need-blind, not all accept the Common Application, not all have rolling admissions, etc. </p>

<p>Specific to online acceptance notification, my daughter was advised of her acceptance via snail mail and so was her friend who now attends MIT (this year, accepted applicants were sent a tubular package with goodies inside). If MIT, a school of known technological adeptness, doesn't choose to offer online acceptance notification, it demonstrates how arbitrary schools can be. You get what you get. </p>

<p>Regarding what you think is "unfair", why would you think something is "unfair" when you have options? If a schools is letting you know that it "strongly recommends" you apply online, why do you wish to ignore their stated preference and submit a paper-based app -- and then complain about the known implications? This is self-created resentment that holds very little credibility. The fact of the matter is that access to the Internet is near ubiquitous for H.S. students in the U.S. If you are smart enough to apply to UVA, you are likely smart enough to know how to gain access to the Internet. I would guess that there are very few applicants without access to this communications medium, and in those cases, a paper application may be the ONLY alternative.</p>

<p>More importantly, here are some of the reasons why college admissions departments highly recommend online applications:</p>

<ul>
<li>Immediate, verified receipt and tracking of applications.</li>
<li>More accurate and complete applications (e.g., online field validations will catch errors or omitted data, interjecting error messages before application is submitted).</li>
<li>With some schools receiving tens of thousands of applications, it is easier to deal with the volume electronically (you may not like being a "number", but you'll find out later in life that you are only a SSN to many).</li>
<li>Electronic, online applications are more economical for schools -- if everybody submitted paper apps, the additional people resources required for processing would ultimately boost the cost of education for students who ultimately enroll (yes, that means you, potentially).</li>
<li>For the benefit of the school and for the applicant, there is the added assurance that information submitted online is indeed accurate -- if a school has to do data entry of your information and makes an error on an important field (i.e., your SSN, your address, your e-mail address, your telephone number), who is to blame? Pointing fingers may not change the consequences of human error. Better to take personal control and bypass the potential for such possible errors (and trust me, human errors happen all the time).</li>
</ul>

<p>If you have the wherewithal, my strong recommendation (as is the case with many schools) is to apply online. Save yourself the potential grief and resentment. And hey... good luck to you! :)</p>

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I would guess that there are very few applicants without access to this communications medium, and in those cases, a paper application may be the ONLY alternative.

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</p>

<p>And such applicants aren't at any disadvantage; if they can't apply on line, they also can't access the decision on line!</p>

<p>
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And such applicants aren't at any disadvantage; if they can't apply on line, they also can't access the decision on line!

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Yeah they can, maybe their local library closes at 5:30 pm so they won't have the time to adequately fill out an application, and it also may be crowded, also limiting time to fill out an entire college application, whereby instead, you go, print off the app, fill it at home with leisure, send it. And then, to check your decision, you could do a quick log on to your email the day decisions are mailed @ the library or some other place; it's not a long process like filling out the entire application. Plus, are recs supposed to be sent online too? That's another hassle added, since many older teachers may not even be "email" literate.</p>

<p>And plus, you didn't answer my question as to is it really fair that applying online automatically calls for a "don't have to send a fee" while applying on paper does, as is the policy at some colleges? </p>

<p>I can't apply online, I don't have net access at home 24/7 a day, I guess people like me simply don't exist anymore huh? Do you take that into acct? I know plenty of people at my poor rural school who don't have internet access at home either. And while I'm at school, yeah, I take 3 online APs, so I basically don't have time to apply outside my house with the restrictions (especially time restrictions) placed on computers outside the home.</p>

<p>It's an unfair system and you know it. Adcoms are going to print off the app when it comes to them ANYWAY, so applying on paper--already printed. I don't see why people who choose to apply via paper have to be penalized for being poor or not paying an extra fee to have internet access at home. If it was equal, there wouldn't be a need for the post, obviously.</p>

<p>Just trying to make a valid point here, if you're going to apply with a "well life isn't fair" then move away from the post button.</p>

<p>Sorry, kid, if you have time to hang around CC and write long posts, you have time to do your app on line. You don't complete apps all at once; you can do them 20 minutes here, 30 minutes there.</p>

<p>What you're not considering is that printing off an on-line application costs a school very little, but data entering a paper application into the system costs a lot in personnel time. And yes, they do that to keep their records straight. </p>

<p>If you're that poor, ask for an application fee waiver.</p>

<p>It took 2.5 minutes to write it, not like a 25 minute ordeal. </p>

<p>And it's personal.</p>

<p>And the issue isn't being poor, or obviously, forget applying by paper. The issue is, why some people don't have to pay to apply online, that's it. I guess you don't have a sufficient answer. It's okay. It's more of a curiosity question anyway. I mean, I just prefer paper. Not that I can't type or anything, far from it, I'm just used to presenting things on paper. So I'm a paper person...kill me.</p>

<p>.karrupt.,</p>

<p>If the application fee is an issue, any student may ask his/her guidance counselor or the college admissions office to grant a fee waiver on the application. Most schools willingly do this. If it isn't an issue for you, and as you say you "just prefer paper", don't make a beef when you opt for a choice not preferred. I understand your preferences, but there's no disputing that there's a clear trend in the admissions process to push for the online application. </p>

<p>The main reasons why some schools offer to waive the fee if an applicant applies online is that an online application is less costly and less work for them. Given the intensity of the admissions season for most admissions officers, you might be able to understand why they might like that. Some notable top schools who do waive the fee for online applications include Wellesley, Colgate, and Case Western Reserve. Understand though that these schools are offering incentives to apply online because it helps them (and in turn, it may help the applicant). They are not penalizing those who choose to apply via paper, rather they are rewarding those who apply online -- thus saving the schools money and making life easier on them. A somewhat minor factor as well is that if an applicant chooses to use the online Common Application, submitting additional applications online is a relatively easy matter, especially if the application fee is waived. This increases the number of applications to colleges and presents an undefined benefit to their selectivity vis-a-vis some college ranking methods.</p>