$0 and Need based Aid

<p>I mean, i can hardly pay any money for the college expenses ($0). and i've applied to some schools with a need based financial aid policy. (like Cornell and JHU). so i am wondering if these school will find me such a poor man and won't offer me the admission? or they will still consider me if i am extrordinary enough and give me even full aid?</p>

<p>remember that most schools have a need-blind policy...meaning just because you're "poor," it won't influence their decision to admit/reject you. you better look into that at the schools you applied to.</p>

<p>click on financial aid in the college discussion (left panel) for more information. I doubt they will find you so poor and offer you full admission unless you are a stellar student or have a special talent... there are many poor people in the world :)</p>

<p>haha thats weird</p>

<p>Finan aid is really broken into two parts:
1) Need-blind: They do not consider your need when they decide to accept you or not.
2) Need will be met: If they do accept you, then they guarantee that you will be provide with aid so that you can attend.</p>

<p>Having 1 without 2 doesn't help you. In my opinion, 2 is better than 1 even though you may have less chance of being admitted. In actual practice, finan aid is very good at colleges, especially elite colleges. You can judge #1 by the % of students receiving aid. You can judge #2 by the size of the average grant. Although the general situation is pretty good, colleges don't necessarily want to lock themselves totally in either #1 or #2. The colleges that do are at this website:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.wfu.edu/admissions/finaid/twenty-eight.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wfu.edu/admissions/finaid/twenty-eight.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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remember that most schools have a need-blind policy...meaning just because you're "poor," it won't influence their decision to admit/reject you.

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<p>Keep in mind that most schools that are need blind are only need blind to U.S. citizens and permanent residents. Some are also need blind to citzens of canada and mexico. However most need blind schools are not need blind to international students. Having a "0" EFC as an international student can hurt you because your ability to pay will be a critieria for admissions.</p>

<p>Just because a school is need blind does not mean that they will meet 100% of your demonstrated need.</p>

<p>Since the schools in question also request the CSS profile, you will not get "full aid" in the terms of a free ride. </p>

<p>While both schools will meet 100% of yor demonstrated need, you will have a student contribution of $1500-2500, you will have work study, and your package will have loans (having a "0" efc could mean that you have both subsidized stafford and perkins loans depending on how the school packages their financial aid)></p>

<p>hnnn...i am intl...</p>

<p>as far as i know, only Yale and Harvard and Princeton offer need blind admission and need based FA to intls. </p>

<p>@dufus3709
thanks very much! i've checked the list. but it is just a fact for native americans...can anybody make out a list of colleges with need blind ** and need based ** for me?</p>

<p>I believe Johns Hopkins is NOT need-blind.</p>

<p>Yeah,,,JHU is not need blind to intls, either is Cornell.</p>

<p>There are not many colleges that are need-blind for international students. This is because the colleges can't rely on US government money for assistance (as they can with domestic candidates) and so they have to fund international students using their own resources. It is sometimes possible for international students to get funding from places other than the colleges.</p>

<p>The colleges that do provide financial aid to international students tend to be the most elite colleges. These are extremely hard to get into, and can be even harder for international students due to the financial aid issue. </p>

<p>A very good website is:
<a href="http://www.internationalcounselor.org/College%20program/the%20list.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.internationalcounselor.org/College%20program/the%20list.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>yeah, man. i've read through the page! it is quite useful. and i am surprised to find that Middlebury do offer needblind admissions to intls. (in the previous time i thought that only some top IVY schools do.) it is a pitty that i haven't applied to Middlebury (in fact i submitted the common app. online but didn't send them my RCs and Transcripts.)</p>

<p>If you did the common app and paid the application fee to Middlebury, then you applied. Send them the EC's and transcripts now. On all applications, it says that everything has to be in by the deadline, but that is basically untrue.</p>

<p>dufus... that site itself is not complete, i.e. not all schools that are generous with aid are listed there. Should check this out instead! </p>

<p><a href="http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/reac-europe/intfinaid_awards.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/reac-europe/intfinaid_awards.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>if you can get in princeton, their financial aid program is amazing. ive heard great things and its pretty much all in grats. students from princeton graduate with the least about of debt compared to every other college in the nation</p>

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students from princeton graduate with the least about of debt compared to every other college in the nation

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<p>Now, if you could just get over come the fact Princeton accepts a little over 100 international applicants each year and 91% of all students who apply are not admitted</p>

<p>worth a try >_></p>

<p>Princeton,,hehe...if i am not in Yale this year, I will probably have a try on Princeton the next year.</p>

<p>@dufus3709
well, man. thanks very much for your information! i would like to try to finish my Middlebury applications. but i am worried about the Financial Aid application which is due on February 1, 2006.. anyway, i will have a try.</p>