'12 SCEA-ers

<p>Hey guys, I know it's pretty early but when you think about it, EA applications are just around the bend! How's everyone feeling? I'm rather anxious considering the gigantic jump in EA applicants there will likely be. I've decided I'm going to stick with my dream school though because it should be worth it. What are your thoughts? Anyone started on essays yet?</p>

<p>Introductions anyone?
I go to a public high school in London, Ontario (CANADA) so I'll be an international. There are about 1200 kids in my school. It gets pretty crowded and hot in the summer. Hurray!</p>

<p>Hey guys, I seriously think you should reconsider...if you want to maximize your chances, go for an ED program. Yeah, I'm jaded, but it's true. Yale may be better than Princeton and Penn, but seriously...you have to get in first.</p>

<p>Princeton doesn't have ED anymore, remember?</p>

<p>Hmm, then go for another school that has higher early admit rates. Columbia? Harvard SCEA? Whatever--you can ignore me. I just regret wasting my biggest chance on the school with the lowest rates, and I don't want you guys to do the same.</p>

<p>no Harvard SCEA next year...only Yale of HYP will have an early program so a ton of kids will likely apply.</p>

<p>If Yale wasn't my first choice I would definitely do ED somewhere else but...it is. So I'm just kind of bummed.</p>

<p>I said this on another thread but I hope Yale's acceptance rate goes up this year because of their knowledge that first-choice Harvard/Princeton kids are reluctantly going to do Yale SCEA. I mean, they have no choice if they are truly one of those "HYP-or-bust" students (which is really sad).</p>

<p>MallomarCookie: Harvard and Princeton no longer have EA/ED. That's sort of the point here.</p>

<p>If Yale is your first choice, or your second or third choice behind Harvard and/or Princeton, or you're interested in Yale but aren't sure if you want to commit, I suggest you apply there early. It's one of the only top schools with a non-binding early program, so you really have nothing to lose--either you get in or you don't (or you get deferred) and you hear about the other schools you're really interested in April. I say just go for it and don't sweat it.</p>

<p>I wonder why Yale never followed suit with the termination of H & P's EA program....</p>

<p>Ok, I also was thinking that I might do Princeton or Columbia ED b/c of their higher admit rates, but I decided to go with Yale SCEA b/c I loved it...and I got in :-) Soooo...if you love it, go for it. Even if you get into another wonderful school ED, you'll always wonder if you could have gone to Yale. Apply early to your first choice...and good luck!!!</p>

<p>I think Yale never followed suit because Yale does not face the problems Harvard and Princeton do with early action. From personal experience, since this has happened to a lot of my friends, since Greece (that's where I am from) usually sends 8-10 people to Yale, the EA people would get in, since they satisfy the criteria. Unfortunately, Harvard is different as many not so qualified people apply early action and Harvard is virtually impelled to accept them as a back up. This girl with low 600s in SATs and poor ecs got in this year and took up the position of other kids with glowing ecs, scores and achievements. This is why Harvard has abolished EA and most likely Princeton as well.</p>

<p>ah, I get it. Thanks!</p>

<p>I agree with what Mallomar is saying. SCEA seems to only let in athletes, legacies, URM's, and others with major hooks. I thought that maybe it would show extra interest, but remember, only 20% of deferees get accepted, and a lot of them are super amazing. If Yale is really your dream school, I guess it can't hurt, but there are places where early admission is more beneficial. I got waitlisted at three RD schools, so I probably could have gotten into them ED. I also got deferred, then rejected at Yale. I'm happy with where I am going right now, but if I had the money to afford an OOS top university (Duke, Dartmouth, JHU, Penn, blahblahblah) I would have applied ED.</p>

<p>I'm deciding between yale and stanford ea...</p>

<p>If you have seen the Yale 2010-11 Early Admit facebook groups, you'd realize how wrong you are, erhswimming. Sure, there are legacies, athletes and URMs, but there are also plenty of normal people who are just plain smart and interesting.</p>

<p>Also, the SCEA admit rate was about 19.7%, compared to 6.4% for those in the regular decision round, so interpret that as you wish. Not to mention the fact that the admit rate for deferees is still greater than the regular pool.<br>
If you're sure you want to go to Yale, I would apply there Early. If you don't care about the individual school and just want to go to HYPS, then whatever.</p>

<p>debate_addict - Harvard is not impelled to accept anyone. With its lowest acceptance rate to date, I would venture to say that "this girl with low 600s in SATs and poor ecs" (by your standards?) had a lot more going for her if she was admitted.</p>

<p>Is it really that risky applying EA to a school like Yale? If you're truly qualified and they still want to consider you, they'll defer you. If you're rejected outright, doesn't that mean that you wouldn't have gotten in RD anyway?</p>

<p>Right. If you LOVE Yale more than any other school, I'd take the risk. If it's tied for you with, say, Columbia, I might do ED to the other school to increase your chances. But if Yale is by far your first choice, go for it!</p>

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If you're truly qualified and they still want to consider you, they'll defer you.

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Really good point... especially if Yale doesn't want to overadmit/overenroll or whatever it is they call it. They're probably going to defer the same [well qualified] percentage of the EA pool just to wait and see how many apply RD and go from there.
But as for me Yale is absolutely my first choice so I'm definitely going to take the risk if I can get my scores up.</p>

<p>I agree with some of the more recent posts on this thread.</p>

<p>I actually applied SCEA this year but was deferred. However, I was accepted RD (much rejoicing on my part). Yale has been my first choice for an incredibly long time, so applying SCEA was a no-brainer for me.</p>

<p>My admissions officer sent me a letter of congratulations recently -- on the bottom he mentioned how disappointed he when the admissions committee, as a whole, voted to defer me as an early candidate. I honestly believe that one of my big push factors to get accepted RD was because I had applied early... I mean, sure, I worked hard my senior year and sent in a good chunk of supplementary materials after my deferral... but I think that "applied SCEA" part contributed to my final decision.</p>

<p>I really do feel that if Yale is your top choice -- apply early, no doubt in my mind. If not, you might want to reconsider since many of the Ivies select a large percentage of their incoming freshman class ED. Regardless, best of luck next year.</p>

<p>And oh yes. I did not do much research on Ivy acceptance rates for the class of 2011, but Yale didn't have the lowest rates this year... am I correct? I could be terribly wrong, though. (Indeed, this college admissions game is rather unpredictable.)</p>