2 Lab Sciences 1st Semester?

<p>This is going to be a long one, please bear with me.</p>

<p>So I got back from CTOPS last Friday, and registering for classes was a disaster for me. Originally, I had intended to sign up for Bio 101 and physics 116, (I waived my AP Physics Mechanics and E&M credits, even though I got 5's on them...more on that later). I went through two advisors for my pre-registering planning sessions, and they didnt see anything wrong with that. </p>

<p>But then I went to register for those classes, and the advisor in the registration room wouldn't let me go through the process, because I had two lab sciences first semester, which is apparently not allowed. So then, I was forced to drop the physics (and the accompanying lab), and make up 4 credits on the spot. By this time, everyone else had taken all the classes I wanted to take, so I got stuck with some pretty bad classes. I can still change it come August 4th, but I just wanted to know if there was indeed a rule saying that I can't take two lab sciences 1st semester, because the previous two advisors didn't say anything about that. </p>

<p>Another 2 questions. My 1st advisor said that I should waive my AP Physics credits and take Physics 116 and 117, because that's what most people do. I got a 5 on both mechanics and E&M, so I don't know if I should waive it. I'm looking into physics as a possible major, so I might want to re-take the classes just to get a solid base.</p>

<p>Finally, I'm expecting a 5 on the AP Chem exam, but my Advisor said I should waive that as well and take CHEM 102H instead of Organic Chemistry. Thoughts?</p>

<p>Thanks for reading all of this</p>

<p>Drop Add and get what you want.<br>
Don't overload first semester.
Listen to advice.
My D found ap physics easy scored a 5 and was kicked in the gut by the college level.</p>

<p>i randomly came across this website and registered to reply to this thread.. haha</p>

<p>Bali, i was in position very similar to yours last year. unless something has changed, UNC does not give credit for phys 116 or 117 from ap scores. it doesn't matter if you took physics b or c. i'm assuming since you said mech. and e&m that you took c, so you will get credit for 104 and 105 (algebra based, and from what i hear, much much easier).</p>

<p>i too was considering a physics major until i took phys 116 last spring. that is kind of a long story, but never mind. if you are still considering phys you will need to take 116 and 117 for major reqs.</p>

<p>i took chem 102h last fall... i would highly recommend it, even though the same prof will not be teaching it. i took it because i wanted to get a review since the last time i took chem was in my sophomore year. it ended up being a great class. i have pretty much decided on a chem major. i'm guessing you just finished it, but unless you are very confident in your chem base i would advise against taking orgo your first semester.
i have a friend who got a 5 on ap chem who took analytical his first semester. he's a smart guy, but for various reasons, he finished with a C.</p>

<p>as for your main question: i tried to do the exact same thing at CTOPS, except i had chem/physics labs. i don't think there is any rule against it, and you can probably drop/add to get them both. that being said, i would recommend against it. labs take a lot of time. i haven't taken a bio lab, but i think the bio lab is 4 hrs long. physics lab reports, especially, are very tedious.</p>

<p>that turned out to be longer than i anticipated, haha. let me know if you have other questions</p>

<p>wow, joined just because of this thread. I'm honored. haha.</p>

<p>But really, that was some great advice. I've heard from other people too that its a pretty bad idea to take two labs sciences first semester, and you just confirmed that. So thanks, I won't be doing that anymore.</p>

<p>Is chem 102h just a repeat of 102? Or does it go more in depth/cover more area than 102? I'm fairly confident with my chem base, but I'm probably going to take 102h just to heir on the side of caution; I don't plan on a chem major anyway, so it's not that big of a deal. </p>

<p>And, from your experience, tsunc, how's the physics department? I'm assuming that because you aren't considering a physics major, you didn't like it very much.</p>

<p>I would say take Chem102H but I know for a fact the class is made a little bit easier than regular Chem102. A lot of Honors classes are taken by non-Honors students simply because they pretty much guarantee you an A or B. If you plan on taking Organic eventually then you definitely should NOT take it first semester. That class is one of the hardest in college for most people.<br>
Oh and about the 2 labs, you definitely do NOT want to do that first semester, you have so much to get used to. I did that second semester and it still wasn't easy but if you decide on a science major you eventually will have to take on 2 labs for several semesters.</p>

<p>Oh and Physics is quite hard at UNC and the department and building itself are rather outdated. But, you may like it. Good luck</p>

<p>102h covers the topics from 101 and 102 in one semester. i think it may go a bit more in-depth, but i don't really remember. one thing though: if you do take 102h, which i think you should, don't blow it off because you feel like you already know it. that's what i did in my physics class and it hurt me.</p>

<p>i didn't like the physics department. i mean it was ok. i came in thinking i was going to do BME or possibly physics; i wasn't really considering chem until 102h. then i took phys and didn't really like it, so phys and bme were out.</p>

<p>what karpiac07 said about the class being easier is probably true. they will probably tell you that it is a class geared toward chem majors, and they like to "encourage" people to stick to the chem major by not scaring them away. haha. our prof told us all this at the beginning of the semester. but again, you will have a different instructor, and it all depends on the prof who is teaching it.</p>

<p>Don't jump into any upper-level physics classes without taking the calculus-intensive intro courses (116 & 117), regardless of your AP scores. My boyfriend also took AP Physics but he actually failed 117 last semester and will most likely need to retake it for his computer science major. Make sure that either the rest of your courses are less time-intensive so that you can focus on these ones (which are going to be pretty difficult for practically EVERYONE) or be willing to devote most of your free time to homework, like my friends who do nothing but live and breathe organic chemistry, etc.</p>

<p>Also, unrelated, I love physics majors. They generally have a really dry sense of humor :)</p>