2010-2011 Med school applicants and their parents

<p>Curm, like that quote. I was thinking that there would definitely medical schools that my son would not want to be at because of the competitiveness of the students so its good to hear that some actually think about that when enrolling their classes.</p>

<p>MiamiDAP, Wright State - secondary sent today</p>

<p>Thanks, I was just curious… One of my friends was waiting until she got her MCAT scores back, but I was under the impression they process your app without your scores. I’m sure you all talked about this in the thread somewhere, but I haven’t read through everything.</p>

<p>jambaby, I believe AMCAS processes your app without your MCAT scores.</p>

<p>Two questions, a general one and a specific one:

  1. Before AMCAS verifies your application, will “screened” schools (as regard to whether they invite you to submit secondaries) know you are applying to their schools?
  2. Among two of DS’s super-reach schools, Yale and Baylor, one of them (Yale) has asked him to submit his secondary, but the other (Baylor) has not. Is it because the former is an unscreen school while the latter is a screen school? It is also strange here that, as I believe, his app has not been verified by AMCAS. Then, how would a screened or unscreened school know he applies to that school? (curm in particular: pls helps with my second question, as you D got into both of these schools. Thanks in advance.)</p>

<p>I am interested in the answer to 2) because: If Yale is a screened school, and a school would know a student applies to that school only after AMCAS has verified the app of a student, I know DS’s app has been verified by AMCAS as of Today.</p>

<p>By googling on SDN:</p>

<p>the list of no-screens (as far as i know):</p>

<p>BU
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Einstein
Georgetown
GWU
Harvard
Jefferson
Mt. Sinai
NYMC
NYU
Penn
Pitt
Rochester
SUNY Downstate
Tufts
Yale</p>

<p>So I guess Baylor is a screen school, while Yale is not. And some un-screen schools (like Yale) know you apply to their schools and they may send you secondaries, even before your app is verified by AMCAS.</p>

<p>Okay, that’s what I thought. I just didn’t understand why she would bother waiting for the scores when she could have gotten a move on with the app… Ha!</p>

<p>MCAT2, I don’t remember Baylor being screened. Isn’t it a school where it’s OK to do the secondary prior to invite?</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bcm.edu/admissions/index.cfm?PMID=1776[/url]”>http://www.bcm.edu/admissions/index.cfm?PMID=1776&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>MCAT2 , here’s what a current BCM student says

That is my memory, too.</p>

<p>curm, Thanks for your help, again.</p>

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<p>I would add that those two things are not equivalent. Schools that don’t screen may still have to send you an invitation in order for you to create an account and access their secondary. This from Tufts, (similar language from plenty others)</p>

<p>“When we receive your 2010 AMCAS application, we will send you an email inviting you to submit an online secondary application. This email will include a password that will enable you to access our online secondary application web site.”</p>

<p>In a separate section they indicate that " we do not screen applicants prior to the secondaries". </p>

<p>In most cases, in order for the student to have access to the secondary application the school must have had to download your AMCAS information. You need to use your AMCAS ID to create an account therefore matching their information.</p>

<p>There is only one school I was able to create an account without receiving an email.</p>

<p>MyOpinion, A confusion for me: After you have submitted your primary (i.e., you have obtained your AMCAS ID) but before you have been verified by AMCAS, are you allowed to submit your secondary to the school which does not send you an invite (for a secondary) AND does not screen its applicant?</p>

<p>mcat2, the AMCAS ID is the number that we are issued when we first register in the site. Once the primary application is up, we begin completing it. We were told that AMCAS did not send our information to the schools until the 25 of august, however, some of us got a emails from a few schools on the 24th so maybe AMCAS did their transmission earlier. </p>

<p>AMCAS does not send any info to the schools unless we have been verified = making sure we entered our school info correctly, courses, grades, etc and calculating the AMCAS GPA (which for some people varies slightly compared to their schools GPA).</p>

<p>If the school does not have the AMCAS info, it does not know who is applying and who is not. They have no info to match you with and they have no “file” on you. There may be a few schools which allow you to create a school account on the basis of the AMCAS ID alone, but I have not faced that scenario nor know of anyone who has been able to do it that way…</p>

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That has to be a mistake, but it may confuse some folks. Want to try again?</p>

<p>MyOpinion must have meant the 25th of june, it was all over SDN at the time</p>

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<p>Thanks guys. Yep, 25th of June.</p>

<p>So, just to confirm: </p>

<p>AMCAS submitted on 7/7. Transcripts received by 7/20 (darn community college English class transcript, slowing down my verification!). Current status is: “transcripts received, ready for review”. Once I’m verified by AMCAS, I’ll start receiving secondaries–probably quicker from schools that do not screen, and might have to wait longer for schools that do screen. Until I’m verified, there’s nothing else I can do (besides check on letters of recommendation), which means I really just need to wait around until I get my secondaries? Thus far I’ve received none, but I wasn’t expecting to until I was verified. This whole “screened v unscreened” thing has thrown me off though!</p>

<p>And a question:</p>

<p>Is there any strategy to adding schools to my list via AMCAS before I’m verified? I added two the other day–Loyola and Iowa–and had to resubmit again on 7/21. I do not know if resubmitting moved me to the “back of the line” so to speak (ie, “updated” my submission date to that day, rather than to the day a two weeks earlier when I initially submitted), or if it just updated my account and I kept my place in line. I have a few more schools to add, now that I’ve had more time to research them (initially I wanted to get AMCAS done and submitted, so I submitted without a full list of schools). I’ll add at least BU, Yale, Harvard, and Mayo (all of which, along with Duke and Northwestern, are my “dream big” reaches), with potentially one more wildcard. Should I add them now, potentially resetting my submission date but nonetheless applying to each of those as early as possible, or should I wait until I’m verified to add them, with the potential benefit of being verified sooner (not getting sent to the back again, if that’s the case), but then not applying to those schools for a few more weeks? I have no idea and no opinion, but would love some advice!</p>

<p>I would check SDN for ideas, but quite frankly that website freaks me out and makes me super nervous/anxious about med school (seems to be teeming with the type of kids my friends and I call “obnoxious premeds” aka, the ones who always do everything/are annoying in class/like to add stuff to resumes/are hyper worried about med school/med school is their life), so I’ll stick with the friendly folks over at CC, thanks guys!</p>

<p>kristin, go on over to sdn and get the secondary prompts and start writing them now. Don’t let them pile up on you.</p>

<p>Agreed. Crazy premeds no matter how this turns out at least I had a life in undergrad.</p>

<p>curm–is it reasonable to believe that the secondary prompts posted on SDN are current? I only ask because I have no experience with SDN (besides initial shock that there’s an entire community of obnoxious premeds!) and am every so slightly hesitant to trust a message board with my secondaries. Then again, I know better than to question your advice re: med school, so perhaps I’ll go sign up for an SDN username…</p>

<p><em>opens new tab</em></p>

<p>Kristen- yes, most of the SDN prompts will be accurate and by the time you’ve written a dozen or so you will realise that there is significant overlap in the prompts. The same short answer may be expanded for one schools word count and shrunk for another, but you will be reusing the ideas, so even if one of your pre-writes is not the same as the 2010 prompt, it will not have been a waste of time.</p>

<p>DD moaned, groaned, and griped about writing extra stuff for the TX app, and little did we know that was merely a brief foreshadowing of the secondaries to come!</p>

<p>somemom covered it well. I looked at sdn and a number of the 10-11 prompts are up on the 10-11 school specific forum. Most won’t have changed from the 9-10 school specific forum.</p>